# For David B, the good Doctor and others who are knowledgable about Creation debate

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 12, 1999, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218 "1999-11-12T22:37:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/541 "1999-12-18T01:06:00Z")

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I started my own thread: “The NIV is a tool of the Devil!” [www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001524.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001524.html)

It refers to a website I found: [www.jesus-is-lord.com](http://www.jesus-is-lord.com) that is one of the most hate-filled sites I’ve ever seen: anti-Catholic, anti-Mormon, anti-gay, anti-evolution… In short, anti- everything that makes the author uncomfortable.

Just see for yourself. And I have to say the Left Behind folks do know an asshole when they see one, even if they’re too polite to call him one.

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/542 "1999-12-18T01:17:00Z")

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Hey, does anyone know who **Doubting Thomas** is? Sounds like a good candidate to be a Straight Doper.

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\>\< DARWIN \>  
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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/543 "1999-12-18T01:21:00Z")

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THAT FUCKING ASSHOLE SON-OF-A-BITCH!

Is this guy _intentionally_ starting shit with me, or is he too fucking stupid to know better?

[Thomas Must Die](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001461-2.html)

SpiritHoar, indeed!  
David

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/544 "1999-12-18T02:23:00Z")

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> I can understand falling into such a pit by accident, but I cannot imagine hanging around in it.

Lib has a point, folks. We’ve more than adequately exposed the current bunch of Left Buttock denizens to some different ideas, and thoroughly affirmed that we might as well talk to a post. Now we’re just…I don’t know what, but it’s getting a bit pathological. Other than to keep Carma from taking credit for praying us away 😉 , why are we hanging around, really? David, is Thomas worth getting that worked up over? He’s just some snot-nosed kid who believes he knows it all, and is more obnoxious than most about it.

On another point, though, I doubt that they’re praying _for_ us, Lib. Carma didn’t use the phrase ‘the enemy’ vacuously; I’m sure she and the others see us skeptics as the enemy, or as tools of the devil. To the extent that they see themselves as praying _for_ us, I expect it’s in a ‘we know what’s best for those misguided sinners’ sense, where they pray for God to turn us into People Like Them. (Lord, if You love me, save me from that fate!)

Gaudere, you’re right about Matt. 7:6; I’ve sen it several times there. Don’t you love the way they use Scripture to insult people, and as a backhanded way of calling ungodly someone who disagrees with them?

slythe - I agree with you 100%.

Durn my hide for trying to talk to them in the first place. The next time I think of doing something that stupid, somebody give me a good talking-to, okay?

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/545 "1999-12-18T03:26:00Z")

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You’re right, of course, RTF… I wasn’t _really_ worked up because of Thomas, but he was a good vent-point after a bad day at work.

At least I feel better now (but I’d still like to punch him in the nose.)

WHY I still check that board, however, is beyond me…

-David

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/546 "1999-12-18T04:09:00Z")

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SpiritHoar, er, Soulfrost said:

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> What do you get? Oh, I dunno…did I mention that we’re running a special on pants-down spankings this week?

Cool! Who do I get to spank?

Why can’t you believe I posted it? What are they gonna do, ban me? Whine more about me?

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/547 "1999-12-18T04:46:00Z")

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Good points, all, David. And besides, do they really need a _reason_ to whine?

Oh, you misunderstand! You get to be the spankee–all for a small, one-time charge… Lemmesee…what DID I do with that Texas Flyswatter? (flies here grow to the size of sparrows, y’know…)

-David

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/548 "1999-12-18T04:57:00Z")

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Lib, I have no intention of posting on a board full of people who can’t tell “love” from “hate”. I believe that their reasoning runs along the line of:  
1.God is Love.  
2.We are Of God  
3.Therefore anything We do to You is Love.

BTW, quoting Bible verses back at them would be useless. They would say something about the Devil using the Bible for his own purposes, and call me names, “lovingly”!

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/549 "1999-12-18T09:51:00Z")

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Hmmm…it’s almost 4am here (Central), and I just noticed that Stan A’s farewell thread is nowhere to be found. I went back 7 pages, and did multiple visual searches as well as string searches using the FIND feature.

Nuttin.

Ironic that, in addition to it being Stan’s farewell, Admin was also slammed a bit for deleting controversial threads…and now–OOPS!–this thread’s missing too.

Maybe it’s server-related…but everything else seems to be right where we left it. The hyperlinks above also work properly, so I believe that the thread has been hidden instead of deleted.

I won’t be able to, so somebody look for it around 9 or 10 am. If the problem’s server-side, it should be fixed by then.

-David

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/550 "1999-12-18T13:23:00Z")

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Slythe, thanks for reminding me of the Devil quoting scripture thing. I just used it against them in relation to social darwinism. I noted that if the Devil can quote scripture to his own ends, he can also quote evolution, and that just because somebody claims their philosophy is based on one doesn’t mean it really is.  
[http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001499.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001499.html)

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/551 "1999-12-18T13:31:00Z")

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I couldn’t think of where else to put it (if I started a new thread, they’d just lock it up and/or delete it), so I added to the “Prayer each hour” thread and said that I’d like to pray that the admins stop deleting things they don’t like without explanation…

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/552 "1999-12-18T16:35:00Z")

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jab1 wrote:

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> Hey, does anyone know who **Doubting Thomas** is? Sounds like a good candidate to be a Straight Doper.

Since his profile says his interests include “skepticism”, I thought he was just another alter-ego for David B. or Satan.

… until I saw that he registered on the Left Behind message board way back in **APRIL!**

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/553 "1999-12-18T16:37:00Z")

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Oh, and I kinda like “SpiritHoar”. It has a better ring to it than “SpiritRime”. 😉

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/554 "1999-12-18T17:56:00Z")

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Tracer said:

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> Since his profile says his interests include “skepticism”, I thought he was just another alter-ego for David B. or Satan.

You don’t think somebody _else_ might have infiltrated the board and be using it for their own evil ends, do you?!

🙂

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/555 "1999-12-18T19:25:00Z")

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You can still get Page Two of **Stan A** ’s Farewell Address. Click on **SoulFrost** ’s link “Thomas Must Die” on Page 11 of this thread. But you cannot get Page One. If you click on the little “1”, you get a **Not Found** page.

I’m not sure if this means it was deleted accidentally or not.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/556 "1999-12-18T20:13:00Z")

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Looks like the regulars have sent Daniel and Josh10:40 to Coventry . . .

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 1999, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/557 "1999-12-19T01:42:00Z")

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How do they know the Rapture hasn’t already happened and **everyone** was left behind?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 1999, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/558 "1999-12-19T13:32:00Z")

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I long ago claimed that the Rapture had happened, and Jimmy Hoffa was the only one taken… 😉

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 1999, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/559 "1999-12-19T15:25:00Z")

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Jab, I’m sure it wasn’t an accident. They just probably didn’t think about the way to slip sideways into a thread like that. We here at the Straight Dope Message Board, however, have much more intelligent users who figured that out a while ago. 🙂

I haven’t been back since yesterday morning, so I don’t know if Daniel’s been sent to Coventry or not, but it wouldn’t surprise me. They sure seemed to ignore his posts in the Prayer Each Hour thread…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 1999, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/560 "1999-12-19T20:42:00Z")

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RTFirefly

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> I long ago claimed that the Rapture had happened, and Jimmy Hoffa was the only one taken…

What about Madalyn Murray O’Hair?

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“It is lucky for rulers that men do not think.” — Adolf Hitler

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