# For David B, the good Doctor and others who are knowledgable about Creation debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 12, 1999, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218 "1999-11-12T22:37:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 1999, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/581 "1999-12-21T16:48:00Z")

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SoulFrost - I posted to your ‘thief of time’ thread. (Ok, so I’m crossing your thread with a Hillerman novel.) Got a double tweak in on Thomas…wonder if he’ll respond?

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 1999, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/582 "1999-12-21T20:55:00Z")

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Whenever someone questions one of his posts, Thomas used to respond with a string of his own questions designed to find out how good of a Christian you are. These days, he mostly just does a quick fade. Or, if someone threatens to punch him in the nose, he gets Admin to hide the thread.

Your question on the Pharisees deserves a thread of it’s own, though… Start one, and let’s see what they have to say.

-David

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 1999, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/583 "1999-12-21T21:53:00Z")

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Nah, you can if you want. If I was going to start one, it would be to see what their reaction was to the _Atlantic_ piece. But I really am trying to get out of there more or less permanently, or at least rarely go beyond lurking.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 1999, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/584 "1999-12-22T19:08:00Z")

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Dunno about anybody else, but I haven’t hit LBMB in a few days. Anything interesting going on? I’ve been too busy to even pop in. Maybe this weekend, since I won’t be doing anything on Christmas but I’ll nonetheless have the day off. 😉

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 1999, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/585 "1999-12-22T22:24:00Z")

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Most of the broken threads seem to be fixed, but I posted a message here that still isn’t showing up. Anyway, in case it never arrives, I noted that I haven’t checked out LBMB in a while, so if anything interesting is going on, let me know. I don’t know when I’ll check it again, though I might have some free time this weekend since I’m obviously not doing anything for Christmas. 🙂

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 1999, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/586 "1999-12-22T22:25:00Z")

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Whaddaya know. That fixed it.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 1999, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/587 "1999-12-22T22:33:00Z")

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Just stopped by there while the SDMB was briefly down. Noticed that a new School Prayer thread was going, and thought, “This is one of the many reasons I don’t like this place - all the stuff I’ve already said on the subject here has undoubtedly been sent to oblivion.”

How many times can a man answer the same dumb questions? Forty-two is NOT the answer; I’m outa there.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 1999, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/588 "1999-12-22T22:52:00Z")

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That’s a big part of my problem with it as well. If you’ve been following certain threads _here_ you’ve seen me get impatient with folks for asking the same questions over and over again after I’d already answered them. Ok, now multiply that a few times and delete out the previous times I’d said the stuff, so I can’t even point back to it! Grrrr…

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/589 "1999-12-23T05:48:00Z")

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I was wondering how long it would take you guys to get frustrated with a board that has a 20:1 ratio of ARG220 types to RTF/Polycarp types. 😉

You guys might want to venture over again in the next day or so (make sure you haven’t eaten recently). Nearly every thread is addressing the weighty questions of  
“How do you intend to survive the Y2K disaster (with the Lord)?”  
“How many terrorists will infiltrate our Christian (PTL) country at the millennium?”  
“Have you seen the new implantable mark-of-the-beast chips that have just been patented in time for the Y2K/Millennium disaster (but God will save us)?”  
etc.

(And I do mean nearly _every_ thread.)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/590 "1999-12-23T15:47:00Z")

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Thanks, Tom. And the same back to ya. 🙂

I think I’ll just stay away for a few days - after all, ‘tis the season to be eatin’. (Would make being a bulimic easier, though - eat 'til you’re stuffed, then visit the LBMB!)

Or, lurk on their site between now and 12/31/99, save the best posts in a Notepad file, then start a thread after 1/1/00: “Best of LBMB Millennium Panic”, and post all the stuff you’d saved from before.

I won’t do that - just too much trouble, in the midst of a busy season - but it would be just the right wascally-wabbit sorta thing to do.

But I am very appreciative of the people here on the SDMB. Ever since the Internet got opened up to a wider group than techies, professors, and grad students, most of the places where one might get involved in any sort of online conversation have been dominated by people with too much time and too little sense or consideration for their fellow humans.

This board is a wonderful exception. People here are, by and large, intelligent, well-read, respectful of other points of view (as long as those who hold those points of view support them with evidence in the appropriate places), and genuinely enjoy a good discussion as an opportunity to learn a bit more, rather than strictly as an opportunity to win an argument.

Not that _everybody_ here is like that, of course - I’ve had to bare my teeth at pests on a couple of occasions here - but they’re rare enough that their presence isn’t a major problem.

So Tom, David, andros, tracer, and anyone who might still be lurking on this thread (I know jab’s already headed for Texas), happy holidays, whatever you’re celebrating, be it Christmas, Saturnalia, or just a pleasant long weekend. It’s cool to have a place online to get to know people like you.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/591 "1999-12-23T15:48:00Z")

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Maybe I’ll check back in _after_ nothing significant happens for Y2K. \< smirk \>

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/592 "1999-12-23T17:09:00Z")

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And if something big does happen, you won’t be around to check back in anyway.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 1999, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/593 "1999-12-24T02:44:00Z")

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Back atcha, Firefly. And happy long stuff to everyone else as well.

-a-

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 1999, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/594 "1999-12-24T15:38:00Z")

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I’ve been a bad, bad boy:  
[http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum3/HTML/002714.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum3/HTML/002714.html)

Also, in one of the c/e threads, Navigator had said something like the only reason for the thread was to show that Daniel is right and all the fundie Bible thumpers don’t know anything. So I agreed with him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/595 "1999-12-28T21:40:00Z")

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The Left Behind message board just added a few cosmetic upgrades – including new animated icons for topic folders with more than 35 messages in them.

The animation looks like little flames leaping up from the folders.

Geez, their color scheme _already_ looked like the fires of Hell, and now this! 🙂

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/596 "1999-12-28T21:43:00Z")

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Yeah, I saw it today. I also saw one next to the e-mail icon for quoting and responding to somebody (guess it’s like hitting “Reply” but also quotes – I didn’t try it out). I think I’m done there, at least for a while. I just can’t keep going back and typing the same thing, day in and day out, only to have it later disappear so the same idiots can ask the same questions and act like they’ve never been answered… It’s bad enough when some of the idiots do that around here, and I _like_ this message board! 🙂

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/597 "1999-12-28T22:04:00Z")

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Hey, didja see their new “Posting Rules”? My fave:

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> 1. Questioning the Authority of the administrators or posting insulting or derogatory comments about any administrator on the message board is strictly forbidden. Members who do so will be instantly banned without comment and their posts deleted.
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> - Rom 13:3-5 - “For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. (NIV)”

I can’t believe they’re quoting Paul to support their right not to be questioned. Geez, what a bunch of losers.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/598 "1999-12-28T22:08:00Z")

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I dunno. I kind of like that rule. I think I’ll ask Ed to impose it here. 😉

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/599 "1999-12-28T22:10:00Z")

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Not to mention the two verses _preceding_ the passage they quote:

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> 1: Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.  
> 2: Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

In other words, they’re saying their authority comes from God. 'Scuse me while I genuflect. 🙂

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/600 "1999-12-28T22:14:00Z")

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Their authority comes from God? Pikers. That’s nothing; our Moderator _is_ God!  
Or at least _a_ god.

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Livin’ on Tums, Vitamin E and Rogaine

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