# For David B, the good Doctor and others who are knowledgable about Creation debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 12, 1999, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218 "1999-11-12T22:37:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/601 "1999-12-28T22:21:00Z")

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Good point, manhattan - how easily I forget! 😉

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/602 "1999-12-28T22:24:00Z")

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RTFirefly quoted the LBMB admins quoting a verse:

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> Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

**ALL** positions of authority are instituted by God?!?!!

Even that lady at the DMV who told me to go stand in line for a Month sticker when I didn’t have to?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/603 "1999-12-28T22:36:00Z")

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That’s right, tracer. And the ump at Little League, and the lifeguard at the swimming pool, and, _of course_, our own beloved Moderator. From that last example, we know it must be so. 🙂

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 1999, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/604 "1999-12-28T22:39:00Z")

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Oh, I was a nasty boy. I opened a thread asking what they thought of the Atlantic Monthly article on the Left Behind books.

They’ve also got a thread going about Dubya picking Jesus as his favorite political philosopher. I couldn’t resist posting there. Help me, friends - I’m succumbing again! 😉

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/605 "1999-12-29T02:15:00Z")

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I don’t believe I’ve posted here before but I have from time lurked to see what all the fuss was about.

After all this time I have a couple of questions.

Why is it so amusing to see the inconsistency in others that are intellectually inferior to you? I find it sad, not amusing at all.

What purpose does it serve to mock others who think differently than you?

Does it make you feel superior? Do you enjoy watching others make fools of themselves for that reason?

I feel that if those are the reasons it is poor sport. I would rather take my chances anyday (and be made out to be a fool) with an intellectual peer than poke fun at Christians who are, shall we say, cognitively challenged.

I am not trying to chastise anyone here or evoke feelings of shame. I am just curious.  
Yours,

Phaedrus

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For what a man had rather were true he more readily believes.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/606 "1999-12-29T02:25:00Z")

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Phaedrus wrote:

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> Why is it so amusing to see the inconsistency in others that are intellectually inferior to you? I find it sad, not amusing at all.

Oh, I don’t know, I find your inconsistencies _quite_ amusing, Phaedrus.  
(Sorry. It was too tempting a straight-line to pass up.)

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The truth, as always, is more complicated than that.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/607 "1999-12-29T02:29:00Z")

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RTFirefly wrote:

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> I opened a thread asking what they thought of the Atlantic Monthly article on the Left Behind books.

There have been 2 responses thus far. The gist of both responses was, “I haven’t read it yet, I was too busy reading the Special Y2K Apocalypse Edition of _The Christian Coalition Newsletter_.”

(Okay, okay, I made that newsletter up. They were probably reading the Apocalypse Edition of _Soldier of Fortune_.)

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/608 "1999-12-29T03:00:00Z")

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Manhattan noted:

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> Their authority comes from God? Pikers. That’s nothing; our Moderator is God!

Maybe you should go over there and point that out to 'em. 😉

RTF may be getting drawn back in, but I won’t – at least not right now. I just can’t face that much willfull ignorance on a regular basis.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/609 "1999-12-29T03:01:00Z")

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Anybody else notice how Satan disappeared from the message board just when we started asking about the dollar he promised us?

Coincidence?

😉

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/610 "1999-12-29T15:09:00Z")

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David B: I think Satan is on tour.

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/611 "1999-12-29T15:12:00Z")

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tracer: At least I can be amusing! Thanks! I have found myself to be the BUTT of others jokes for quite some time! No offence taken. Still I would like some honest answers to my questions.

Anyone?

Phaedrus

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For what a man had rather were true he more readily believes.

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/612 "1999-12-29T15:18:00Z")

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Further, to some who lurk it may give the impression that you are hanging outside a store that sells prosthetics to “make fun” of the cripples.

???

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/613 "1999-12-29T19:08:00Z")

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Ha ha, you’re missing a leg!

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/614 "1999-12-29T19:14:00Z")

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We always said he didn’t have a leg to stand on.

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/615 "1999-12-30T22:56:00Z")

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I’m gone for a week, and just LOOK at what happens!

::sigh::

Anyway, I’ve had about enough from that sector. I left their self-rightous Admin a parting message…

[Then ban me](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001745.html)

-David

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/616 "1999-12-30T23:24:00Z")

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Wow! 29 minutes to close the thread. That’s got to be some kind of UBB record.

Wonder how long it will take to close _you_.

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Livin’ on Tums, Vitamin E and Rogaine

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/617 "1999-12-30T23:50:00Z")

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Hmmph. 31 minutes to delete it.

Since no one here will actually see the thread, I’ll recap. Our intrepid OP pointed out that the scriptural justification for Administrative power was offensive to him because while each of the Admin/Mods may be a servant of God (not you, **David B**!), the assumption of the title “agent of wrath” seemed a little over the top.

An additional poster came in and posted something to the effect of “the rules were always there, you just didn’t read them.”

An Administrator (sorry, didn’t catch which one) added that s/he was “disappointed” that the OP willfully misinterpreted scripture as part of his diatribe against the board authorities.

The thread closed.

The thread disappeared.

## Thus endeth the story.

Livin’ on Tums, Vitamin E and Rogaine

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/618 "1999-12-30T23:50:00Z")

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"Sorry, but you no longer have permission to post a note on the bulletin board. Either the administrator of the BB or one of the moderators has removed your posting  
privileges. "  
Umm…29 minutes.

-David

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 1999, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/619 "1999-12-31T00:46:00Z")

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Hey, I guess you guys got a leg up on me! 😉

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 1999, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/620 "1999-12-31T01:58:00Z")

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I note that SoulFrost’s swan song thread has had its number reassigned to a thread about second chances. Since I love an ironic twist as much as the next guy, I’ll be happy to relinquish the screen name Tim Barnes (B-R-A-I-N/S-T-E-M – get it?) to any banned poster who’d like a **second chance** of their own. I find I don’t have much stomach for that crowd, except in a rubbernecking-fascination-with-a-car-wreck sort of way.

If anyone would like to take me up on my offer, just put a high sign in this thread, and I will e-mail you the password.

Alternatively, if the consensus is that the continued infiltration of the LBMB is just too dreary a prospect for serious consideration, may I suggest a game of “Who Can Get Themselves Banned the Fastest?” SoulFrost’s record of 29 minutes is commendable, but I gather that the title of his thread could have skewed the outcome in his favor. Potential rules for the game:

1. All contestants declare themselves in or out of the race prior to commencing.
2. Deliberate flouting of the LBMB’s rules of engagement is encouraged (and possibly required), but any post which dares (in so many words) the administration to apply the ban is a disqualifier.
3. No posting links to pornographic web sites. In fact, if a reasonable person could be expected to believe that posting a particular link here would result in a [Moderator Hat On][Moderator Hat OFF] message from David B, don’t post it there.  
3a. Posting the link to “Kissing Hank’s Ass” would be just too easy. Doesn’t count. Imaginativeness does.

Subject to the consent of Satan/StanA/Brian, the prize for first place could be that dollar he promised in his OP to this thread.

So do we have a quorum to vote on the motion?

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Of course truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.  
Mark Twain

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