# For Der Trihs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601 "2008-04-01T23:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/181 "2008-04-03T21:15:52Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Can you not comprehend that the vast majority of posters simply think he’s a douchebag—aside from his positions? As you point out, just look at how often he’s pitted? Just look how many people who share most of his views regarding atheism or Iraq can’t stand him. Don’t you understand? Der Trihs is the Jews and Dibble is Oscar Schindler. Der Trihs is Rosa Parks, and Dibble is the bus seat. Der Trihs is the boat people, and Dibble is the paddle. GODDAMN IT why am I the only one who sees this? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/182 "2008-04-03T21:23:30Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] As to people being ass-chapped for being told not to use the word “hottentot”, whyn’t you get over yourself? [/QUOTE] I wasn’t the one who brought it up, nor was I the one who tried to explain why it was brought up. So I’m not the one whose ass was chapped, clearly. [QUOTE=Malacandra] For pointing out that object A can be “as black as” object B even if object B is not black? Dude, show me that dictionary you looked up “disingenuous” in. 😛 Y’all are surely aware that many Americans self-identify as Black even if their own skin tone is more the “high-yaller” end of the scale. [/QUOTE] The disingenousness comes in that we both know you weren’t talking about actual skin colour. [QUOTE=magellan01] Look, nobody wants to see DT gone because he is an atheist. Or even an outspoken atheist. [/QUOTE] Tell that to **badchad**. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/183 "2008-04-03T22:10:58Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Tell that to **badchad**. [/QUOTE] That dude was a fucking stalker, and you know it. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/184 "2008-04-03T22:11:24Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Tell that to **badchad**. [/QUOTE] It’s just interesting that your definition of ‘outspoken atheist’ seems to have equated to ‘aggressive asshole’. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/185 "2008-04-03T22:12:34Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Not true. There are a number of us atheists/agnostics who make a point to not defend people like DT, and to distinguish our positions from his. [/QUOTE] Please add me to your list. I’m not an evangelical atheist, but I firmly believe the very best thing **Der Trihs** could do for “the cause” is to shut the fuck up, and never again say a single word about God or religion. Ever. Unhappily, my prayers to that end remain unanswered. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/186 "2008-04-03T22:18:40Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] I wasn’t the one who brought it up, nor was I the one who tried to explain why it was brought up. So I’m not the one whose ass was chapped, clearly. [/quote] Sometimes I have a go at explaining things to the hard of thinking because it amuses me, not because my ass is chapped. I realize this will be a hard concept for you to get, but it’s worth a try. > [@MrDibble](#): > > The disingenousness comes in that we both know you weren’t talking about actual skin colour. You know what I was talking about, in defiance of my actual words on the subject? Amazing. Could I have a pass to see your stage show some time? Strangely, skin colour was exactly what I was talking about. Sometimes, a cigar is just a [del]phallus[/del] cigar. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Tell that to **badchad**. Who was, of course, banned for merely being an outspoken atheist, and not in any way, shape or form seeing how much he could get away with, or ignoring instructions to tone it down. Damn those fundy Admins! ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/187 "2008-04-03T22:21:10Z")
I haven’t seen anyone wanting to have **Der Trihs** banned because he was an atheist. Although a few members have pointed out that he seems to be allowed to get away with stuff that has gotten other members banned, or at least warned. The fact that neither has happened seems to counter **MrDibble** ’s > [@](#): > > It’s a “first they came for the most uppity atheists…” kind of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/188 "2008-04-03T22:42:02Z")
[QUOTE=Grossbottom] Making fun of crazies and retards isn’t as fun as it seems it would be, I think because maybe crazies and retards don’t know they’re crazy and retarded. Let’s make fun of fatties instead now. [/QUOTE] What happens if **Der Trihs** is a fattie? ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/189 "2008-04-03T22:48:42Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] What happens if **Der Trihs** is a fattie? [/QUOTE] He’s not. You know how I know? Because he hasn’t called thin people deluded morons yet. What he does for cardio workouts, I have no idea, but I would be willing to bet that it involves watching MPEG videos of hentai tentacle porn. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/190 "2008-04-03T22:59:37Z")
[QUOTE=Tristan] I don’t debate him in GD because there’s no fucking point. In GD he is a troll, period. [/QUOTE] But there are aspects of his viewpoint, on say soldiers being murderers that make a twisted sort of sense if you think about the issue from the angle **Der Trihs** does, right? I mean, you’d agree with that proposition wouldn’t you? And that being so, calling him a troll (while, as you do, acknowledging that his viewpoint has significant support from other posters) makes no fucking sense whatsoever. You frankly don’t appear to know the definition of the word, or if you do you are making no reference to it in your current application. What you really mean is that his viewpoint upsets you and you don’t like him. Actually, I suppose a lot of people are using the word “troll” in that way these days. It’s losing its orginal meaning and coming to be as specifically meaningful as “asshole”: just another insult. > [@Grossbottom](#): > > Actually, no they don’t belong to the side they think they’re on, because this is the really real world and not subjective universe fantasyland. Shit doesn’t change just because you think it should on Planet Earth in the Milky Way Galaxy. But like I said, he’s fucking nuts and you’re his pal, so it shouldn’t surprise me that the complete subjectivity is the gist of your entire argument. The real world exists and in it, you’re wrong. And pussy post-dissection is the last refuge of the losing argument. So you’d say that someone in the French underground who paid taxes so as to keep their nose clean but who blew up German bridges at night was on the German team? Answer the question before you bother telling me \*\*Der Trihs \*\* doesn’t blow up bridges. It’s an analogy. Not every aspect of it is the same. I’m going to develop it over time and roast you slowly. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/191 "2008-04-03T23:02:23Z")
[QUOTE=Linty Fresh] He’s not. You know how I know? Because he hasn’t called thin people deluded morons yet. What he does for cardio workouts, I have no idea, but I would be willing to bet that it involves watching MPEG videos of hentai tentacle porn. [/QUOTE] Great. Now I need Brain Bleach. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/192 "2008-04-03T23:14:36Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] But there are aspects of his viewpoint, on say soldiers being murderers that make a twisted sort of sense if you think about the issue from the angle **Der Trihs** does, right? I mean, you’d agree with that proposition wouldn’t you And that being so, calling him a troll (while, as you do, acknowledging that his viewpoint has significant support from other posters) makes no fucking sense whatsoever. You frankly don’t appear to know the definition of the word, or if you do you are making no reference to it in your current application. What you really mean is that his viewpoint upsets you and you don’t like him. Actually, I suppose a lot of people are using the word “troll” in that way these days. It’s losing its orginal meaning and coming to be as specifically meaningful as “asshole”: just another insult. [/quote] I’ve got to agree with this. **Trihs** isn’t a troll. He’s actually fucked-up enough to believe what he’s saying. He’s not _trying_ to get a rise out of us. In his world, it all makes sense. Which is sort of why I’m having a hard time imagining him in that penthouse apartment with the beautiful girls. > [@](#): > > I’m going to develop it over time and roast you slowly. How slowly, man? Can’t we just get the stupidity out of the way in one big chunk, so we can move on to something that actually comes off as _not_ being typed by emotionally disturbed Orangoutangs? Some of us have homework, ya’ know? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/193 "2008-04-03T23:20:52Z")
[QUOTE=Linty Fresh] How slowly, man? Can’t we just get the stupidity out of the way in one big chunk, so we can move on to something that actually comes off as _not_ being typed by emotionally disturbed Orangoutangs? Some of us have homework, ya’ know? [/QUOTE] What’s it got to do with you or do you subscribe to **Grossbottom’s** bizarre view about what “team” means too? It’s not something I’d admit to readily, but if you want to, go right ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/194 "2008-04-03T23:21:45Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] But there are aspects of his viewpoint, on say soldiers being murderers that make a twisted sort of sense if you think about the issue from the angle **Der Trihs** does, right? I mean, you’d agree with that proposition wouldn’t you? And that being so, calling him a troll (while, as you do, acknowledging that his viewpoint has significant support from other posters) makes no fucking sense whatsoever. You frankly don’t appear to know the definition of the word, or if you do you are making no reference to it in your current application. What you really mean is that his viewpoint upsets you and you don’t like him. Actually, I suppose a lot of people are using the word “troll” in that way these days. It’s losing its orginal meaning and coming to be as specifically meaningful as “asshole”: just another insult. [/QUOTE] No, the reason I call him a troll, is because in Great Debates he takes an extreme viewpoint and then A- Does not defend it, according to the rules of GD, and B- will handwave or outright ignore anything that is posted that contradicts this viewpoint. This is a large part of the very definition of trolling. He is doing the equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling to avoid hearing anything he doesn’t like… which is fine in the pit, but not GD. And that first bit, about his arguments making sense, from his point of view? That doesn’t fly either. Several years back, we had a small invasion from a prominent White Nationalist website. The things they said about race made sense …from their point of view. **Der Trihs** is the same sort of situation. He believes that all US servicemembers are guilty of murder. All of them, either directly, or by proxy. No matter the circumstances. He has stated that we are engaged in genocide, with US soldiers patrolling the streets of Iraq, and killing anyone and everyone, with the intent of depopulating the nation. He believes that nothing the US government or military says, or anyone associated with them in any way shape or form, can be believed. That they are all brainwashed liars who will support the viewpoint that ANYTHING good is happening, AT ALL. He believes that relgion is universally evil, no matter the circumstances. He has stated that he believes religious faith is a mental illness. He has stated that those that show religous faith (an illness) should be treated as such, up to and including hospitalization for their unstable and unhealthy worldview. Anything that is brought up to dispute or disprove these statements is ignored. No proof, no statistic, no evidence will sway him from these beliefs. He’s not interested in debates, he’s trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/195 "2008-04-03T23:27:30Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] What’s it got to do with you or do you subscribe to **Grossbottom’s** bizarre view about what “team” means too? It’s not something I’d admit to readily, but if you want to, go right ahead. [/QUOTE] Slow down, man, relax. I’m just trying to see things from your perspective, that’s all. Let’s see, we’ve got French people, we’ve got bridges, we’ve got noses and Trihs with explosives or something . . . OK, I give up, _ **WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!** _ ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/196 "2008-04-03T23:53:28Z")
[QUOTE=Tristan] No, the reason I call him a troll, is because in Great Debates he takes an extreme viewpoint and then A- Does not defend it, according to the rules of GD, and B- will handwave or outright ignore anything that is posted that contradicts this viewpoint. This is a large part of the very definition of trolling. [/quote] No it isn’t: look it up. > [@](#): > > And that first bit, about his arguments making sense, from his point of view? That doesn’t fly either. Sorry **Tristan** , I was being mean. [Read it and weep.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9528197&postcount=50) First line. **Linty Fresh** my son used to start yelling and screaming when he knew something was going on but couldn’t understand what. Of course, he was two at the time and I’m not sure that you have that excuse. Go back and read \*\*Grossbottom’s \*\* posts and see if you can’t keep up. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/197 "2008-04-04T00:08:24Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] No it isn’t: look it up. Sorry **Tristan** , I was being mean. [Read it and weep.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9528197&postcount=50) First line. [/QUOTE] I’m sorry, we seem to be using different definitions of Troll. I am saying that the behavior that got **VCO3** banned is the same sort of behavior that \*\* Der Trihs\*\* engages in in any thread about Iraq/the Middle East/Religion. As for citing my own post, you appear to be unable to detect sarcasm and gentle digs. This makes me sad for you. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/198 "2008-04-04T00:37:40Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Tell that to **badchad**. [/QUOTE] Uh, we’re not talking about **badchad** , are we? As far as I know he was banned for being a troll. are you saying that he and DT share that quality? I don’t think DT is a troll. I think he actually believes that stupidity he spews. I’m just waiting for one of his imbeciic rants to end in him typing “Helter Skelter”. That will explain all. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/199 "2008-04-04T00:59:05Z")
[QUOTE=Tristan] I’m sorry, we seem to be using different definitions of Troll. I am saying that the behavior that got **VCO3** banned is the same sort of behavior that \*\* Der Trihs\*\* engages in in any thread about Iraq/the Middle East/Religion. [/quote] Any standard definition I can find involves posting controversial things for the sake of baiting people. Indeed, every definition I can find says that is the central element. There is nothing to suggest \*\*DT \*\* does that, and everything to suggest he does not. You are on your own on this subject, even \*\*LF \*\* doesn’t agree with you. > [@](#): > > As for citing my own post, you appear to be unable to detect sarcasm and gentle digs. This makes me sad for you. I appreciate that you were taking a dig at DT. I don’t think you see my point. Your own post shows that you think that DT’s position as above makes a twisted sort of sense from the angle he sees it from. I know you think he’s twisted and I know you think his angle is bizarre or dumbass or whatever. That is not the point. The point is that if his position makes sense to him from his angle, that is inconsistent with him being a troll. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/200 "2008-04-04T01:11:38Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] Please add me to your list. I’m not an evangelical atheist, but I firmly believe the very best thing **Der Trihs** could do for “the cause” is to shut the fuck up, and never again say a single word about God or religion. Ever. Unhappily, my prayers to that end remain unanswered. [/QUOTE] You’re one of the good ones, I promise you’ll be the last to the ovens. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601.md?page=11)