# For Der Trihs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601 "2008-04-01T23:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/41 "2008-04-02T08:39:05Z")
And not a hollow, pointless victory at all! Shame on you, **FoieGrasIsEvil**! - for lying about **Der Trihs** ’ use of the word ‘eevry’. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/42 "2008-04-02T08:44:13Z")
Yay me. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/43 "2008-04-02T08:54:42Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] What \*\*Nancarrow \*\* said. \*\*Der Trihs \*\* is too obnoxious for his own good, but most of his detractors just can’t lay a glove on his arguments. There are few better reasons to despise someone than the fact that they are right, you are wrong, and they keep rubbing your face in it. Mindless repetition of “you don’t know what you are talking about” at an opponent without demonstrating why, and without evidence that you are better qualified than your opponent is an intellectually insulting _ad hom_, and an argument from authority. That is, it is pathetic non argument. Right back at you, **mswas**. [/QUOTE] Ditto. So what that he thinks religion and American Imperialism are bad things. They demonstrably are. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/44 "2008-04-02T08:57:13Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] “Like most Americans, apparently one of your major goals in life is to kill non-Americans” is outrageous and I said so. It’s not factually justifiable. I don’t think that comment can justifiably be regarded as the sum of the guy though. [/QUOTE] Really? It sounds very characteristic of him, to me. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/45 "2008-04-02T09:25:36Z")
I haven’t encountered his anti-imperialist stuff, but I appreciate DT’s presence in religious debates. His arguments may be samey, but at least they’re consistent. It’s good to have the extremely certain atheist view represented here. For one thing it makes the rest of us infidels seem quite easy-going. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/46 "2008-04-02T10:01:30Z")
Somewhere in a penthouse apartment, surrounded by beautiful women, **DT** is reading this thread and smiling… or, c’mon, do you seriously think the “40-year old living in his mom’s basement” schtick is true, relevant or even original? I agree with **DT** in most every respect\*, c’mon, predict my lifestyle from my opinions next, **Linty Kreskin** - hell, I think I may even take a harder line than him re: murdering soldiers, given the above quotes. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/47 "2008-04-02T10:59:07Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] I agree with **DT** in most every respect\*, c’mon, predict my lifestyle from my opinions next, **Linty Kreskin** [/QUOTE] Ummm . . . You’re a _fifty_ year old virgin? No? Oh well, fuck you too. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/48 "2008-04-02T11:18:42Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] And not a hollow, pointless victory at all! Shame on you, **FoieGrasIsEvil**! - for lying about **Der Trihs** ’ use of the word ‘eevry’. [/QUOTE] It’s a sad day for me, as a holder of a degree in English. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/49 "2008-04-02T11:33:09Z")
[QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] It’s a sad day for me, as a holder of a degree in English. [/QUOTE] Yes, but it’s a triumph for pedantry over just about everything else. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/50 "2008-04-02T11:56:09Z")
Well you’re the one who brought up “eevry” **Mange** , so you’re the one to blame. Joking aside, my serious response to the charge that I’m just being pedantic is post #38 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/51 "2008-04-02T12:40:17Z")
OK, I found what I was looking for. [post=9603489]THIS[/post] is what enraged me about DerDoo-Doo-Head. That to me (as a former servicemember) is an unforgivable statement. Dammit, it’s post #23 in the thread. Thanks to **Jragon** for finding the thread and reminding me. How do you post a link to a single post with a “close window” button at the bottom like you did? I’m new at this… ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/52 "2008-04-02T12:46:00Z")
[QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] OK, I found what I was looking for. [post=9603489]THIS[/post] is what enraged me about DerDoo-Doo-Head. That to me (as a former servicemember) is an unforgivable statement. Dammit, it’s post #23 in the thread. Thanks to **Jragon** for finding the thread and reminding me. How do you post a link to a single post with a “close window” button at the bottom like you did? I’m new at this… [/QUOTE] [Like this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9603489&postcount=23). And yeah, that’s way out there. “To a typical American, you are either an American, or an animal. Something to be exploited like cattle or killed like vermin. Or tormented for amusement.” “if I had the power to call down lightning and kill every last American soldier in Iraq I’d do it and smile.” I mean, I agree that religion and imperialism are bad things, but I think that goes just a _tiny_ bit beyond reason. > [@Staggerlee](#): > > I haven’t encountered his anti-imperialist stuff, but I appreciate DT’s presence in religious debates. His arguments may be samey, but at least they’re consistent. It’s good to have the extremely certain atheist view represented here. For one thing it makes the rest of us infidels seem quite easy-going. This atheist disagrees. I would like to say the stuff he says, _without_ making an active effort to be an insufferable asshole. But once he posts the same shit he always posts, nothing I write will even register. He is it, from that point on. Which, I guess, is what he wants. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/53 "2008-04-02T12:59:59Z")
[QUOTE=Linty Fresh] Ummm . . . You’re a _fifty_ year old virgin? No? Oh well, fuck you too. [/QUOTE] No, fuck you, I get fucked enough by my wife, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/54 "2008-04-02T13:00:40Z")
[QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] How do you post a link to a single post with a “close window” button at the bottom like you did? I’m new at this… [/QUOTE] Click on the post # in the upper right hand corner That will open up the post in a new window/tab (browser dependent) then copy the url and post as usual For example your last post was #51 in the thread. Clicking on the #51 brings up a page with the following URL [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9643150&postcount=51](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9643150&postcount=51) Does that make it clearer? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/55 "2008-04-02T13:14:36Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] Well you’re the one who brought up “eevry” **Mange** , so you’re the one to blame. Joking aside, my serious response to the charge that I’m just being pedantic is post #38 [/QUOTE] Yeah, but you were stressing that you wanted an exact quote - which makes it almost impossible to satisfy you - if people were quoting from memory, and were spot on about the sentiment they were describing, but just happened to have phrased it slightly differently, you still have an out, because it’s not an exact quote. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/56 "2008-04-02T14:46:36Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] What \*\*Nancarrow \*\* said. \*\*Der Trihs \*\* is too obnoxious for his own good, but most of his detractors just can’t lay a glove on his arguments. [/QUOTE] Only because it’s like trying to carry water in a sieve. ---
**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/57 "2008-04-02T14:55:11Z")
[QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] OK, I found what I was looking for. [post=9603489]THIS[/post] is what enraged me about DerDoo-Doo-Head. That to me (as a former servicemember) is an unforgivable statement. Dammit, it’s post #23 in the thread. Thanks to **Jragon** for finding the thread and reminding me. How do you post a link to a single post with a “close window” button at the bottom like you did? I’m new at this… [/QUOTE] OK, I think we need a mod ruling here. According to the [Registration agreement](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=347160) > [@](#): > > You are free to express your views in a forceful manner provided you remain civil. Hate speech, insults, and purposely inflammatory remarks (i.e., trolling) will not be tolerated. \*\*Do not post threats or state or imply that any individual or group is deserving of harm. \*\*We recognize that this rule cannot be strictly applied in discussions of war, capital punishment and the like but urge users to express themselves in moderate terms nonetheless. If we tell you to refrain from behavior that we regard as uncivil, do so or face revocation of your posting privileges. bolding mine. **Der Trihs** states > [@Der Trihs](#): > > They are NOT on my side. They are my ENEMIES. They are scum. As I’ve said in the past, if I had the power to call down lightning and kill every last American soldier in Iraq I’d do it and smile. Isn’t this essentially wishing for the death of our many board members who are active duty and/or serving in Iraq? While it might not be an explicit statement of, “I wish **Military Doper** gets killed by an IED,” this goes beyond the prime directive of the SDMB: Don’t be a jerk. He doesn’t like the military (or America, religion, and probably kittens AFAIK) and, while I don’t agree with him I can support his right to voice it, but he makes the most outrageous _ad hominem_ statements, throws out ridiculous inflammatory comments that make the recently departed \*\* TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW\*\* look like the voice of reason and yet he is not called on the carpet by TPTB. Is it because he has a loyal following? Does he have a picture of Cecil molesting goats? Is he kept around for entertainment purposes like Jerry Springer or Rush Limbaugh? Maybe he is like the eccentric relative that everyone in the family knows about and we just go :rolleyes: whenever he unleashes some more verbal vomit. I think it’s long past time that he be involuntarily committed. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/58 "2008-04-02T14:55:20Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] What \*\*Nancarrow \*\* said. \*\*Der Trihs \*\* is too obnoxious for his own good, but most of his detractors just can’t lay a glove on his arguments. There are few better reasons to despise someone than the fact that they are right, you are wrong, and they keep rubbing your face in it. [/QUOTE] To look at that another way though - I think he’s (often) too obnoxious _to do proper justice to his arguments_. People despise having their faces rubbed in _anything_, and the mere fact that it’s happening will turn them away, regardless/in spite of the merits of the argument. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/59 "2008-04-02T15:00:00Z")
[QUOTE=Slypork] Isn’t this essentially wishing for the death of our many board members who are active duty and/or serving in Iraq? [/QUOTE] I don’t wish to defend the statement, but I think that would be quite a big stretch - it looks like it might be subject to the ‘no wishing death’ rule in some way or other, but not specifically because dopers happen to be in the target group, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/60 "2008-04-02T15:00:57Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] To look at that another way though - I think he’s (often) too obnoxious _to do proper justice to his arguments_. [/QUOTE] Exactly. He does his causes harm, not good. **Slypork** , note the part “We recognize that this rule cannot be strictly applied in discussions of war, capital punishment and the like but urge users to express themselves in moderate terms nonetheless”. Iraq is a war situation, even if the calling-down-of-lightning goes beyond the scope of any war I’m familiar with. Not saying you’re wrong, just offering a point of view. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601.md?page=4)