# For Der Trihs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601 "2008-04-01T23:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/161 "2008-04-03T16:51:50Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] I think **Shodan** ’s point was that for all your harping on the thin-skinnedness of those who are just afraid of the intellectual rigour of **Der** ’s arguments, you have been known to get a barrowload of sand in your vagina when it was your own ox being gored. (Too damn many metaphors in that sentence. Shame, they’re staying now.) Of course, the author of the “racial slur” was someone at least as black as you, and 'prox ten times classier on her posting history since. 😛 [/QUOTE] I know what he thought his point was, but I don’t see the relevance, unless we’re just down to namecalling and nothing else. In which case, let him flail away. I don’t think I said anything about the rigour of his arguments, BTW, just the attitude of his detractors. And man, it still chaps a whole bunch of people’s asses that I got my way about **Venus Hottentot** , doesn’t it? Tough, I was in the right. Suck it up, losers. Oh, and I am not black and don’t claim to be. Not in that sense, anyway. NTTAWWT, etc… [QUOTE=magellan01] What the hell are you talking about—people DO attempt to debate him in GD. Some have numerous times and simply given up. Why? Because they were “losing”? No, because he can’t debate. He is unable to present or see any nuance. He cannot give an inch when he clearly should and it would HELP his larger point. People on his own side have pointed this out to him ad nauseum. [/QUOTE] …and yet it always ends in a Pitting. Funny, that. And during those Pittings, some people come out who don’t participate in the GD debate with **DT** that inspired the Pitting at all. Funny that, too. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/162 "2008-04-03T17:22:07Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > And man, it still chaps a whole bunch of people’s asses that I got my way about **Venus Hottentot** , doesn’t it? Tough, I was in the right. Suck it up, losers. > > Oh, and I am not black and don’t claim to be. Not in that sense, anyway. NTTAWWT, etc… My ass is mighty fine and unchapped, and I got a good laugh watching you throw your toys out of the pram over **Hottentot Venus** , and I am very pleased to see that **Nzinga, Seated** stuck around despite your childishness, and I can think of few fights I have ever had less dog in. Over here “Hottentot” is a word that’s used only by the kind of confused old man who thinks Victoria is still on the throne; it also sounds inherently funny if you say it a lot of times, like “trousers” and “sausage”. This ain’t to say I am some kind of frustrated Hottentot-sayer fretting daily because you have robbed me of my favourite epithet - I doubt I’ve dropped it into conversation half a dozen times in a decade. sausagesausagesausage I know you’re not black - you’re Coloured.[sup]1[/sup] Which doesn’t prevent anyone being “at least as black” as you, now does it? sausagesausagesausage [sup]1[/sup]A distinction which, historically, has been at least as important to Sarfie blacks and coloureds alike as to whites, AIUI, but which also is of amazingly little significance to me. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/163 "2008-04-03T17:43:46Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] My ass is mighty fine and unchapped, and I got a good laugh watching you throw your toys out of the pram over **Hottentot Venus** [/QUOTE] I’d hardly call that thread “tossing my toys”, you must have a fairly low threshold for toy-tossing. And yes, I’d think bringing it up now definitely smacks of ass-chappedness to me. [QUOTE=Malacandra] I know you’re not black - you’re Coloured. Which doesn’t prevent anyone being “at least as black” as you, now does it? [/QUOTE] Now who’s being disingenuous? ---
**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/164 "2008-04-03T17:58:19Z")
Making fun of crazies and retards isn’t as fun as it seems it would be, I think because maybe crazies and retards don’t know they’re crazy and retarded. Let’s make fun of fatties instead now. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/165 "2008-04-03T17:59:37Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] …and yet it always ends in a Pitting. Funny, that. And during those Pittings, some people come out who don’t participate in the GD debate with **DT** that inspired the Pitting at all. Funny that, too. [/QUOTE] Funny how neither one of those points supports the claim that people are unwilling to debate **DT** … or that they are floored by the power of his debating skills. Funny indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/166 "2008-04-03T18:17:19Z")
[QUOTE=Grossbottom] Let’s make fun of fatties instead now. [/QUOTE] Shit, man, what did I ever do to _you?_😛 ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/167 "2008-04-03T18:21:08Z")
What I’m curious about is why **MrDibble** feels obliged to defend **Der Trihs** so ferociously. I’ve been following this thread and he’s been like a mother bear protecting her cub. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/168 "2008-04-03T18:39:11Z")
[QUOTE=LurkMeister] What I’m curious about is why **MrDibble** feels obliged to defend **Der Trihs** so ferociously. I’ve been following this thread and he’s been like a mother bear protecting her cub. [/QUOTE] I know right? I think **MrDibble** feels some sort of idiot kinship. One of the things that amuses me the most about this board is how much atheists have no common denominator other than not believing in God, but they’ll always come to the defense of a fellow atheist when you express a personal distaste for that person. **Der Trihs** is: 1. Not very bright 2. A total prick He’s not an honest interlocutor. Why argue with someone when you know that the only purpose is so they can lure you in so they can berate you for believing something that they don’t believe. Then they create some macro category that expects you to be responsible for the behavior of all religious people ever. “It’s ok for me to be an intolerant prick because of THE INQUISITION!!!”, as though I had anything do with it, and I was oppressing his ancestors. I think it’s sort of a shared insecurity that many atheists share. I can’t come up with any other reason why reasonably intelligent people will jump so vociferously to the defense of an irrational moron. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/169 "2008-04-03T18:44:16Z")
I’ve figured it out. **Der Trihs** is a bot. He’s a model ‘Underbridge 2000’. > [@](#): > > Chris: Hey Meg, try to think of the word I’m thinking of, and it’s not kitty. > Meg: I don’t know… banana? > Chris: Aha, it was kitty! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/170 "2008-04-03T18:49:31Z")
[QUOTE=mswas] One of the things that amuses me the most about this board is how much atheists have no common denominator other than not believing in God, but they’ll always come to the defense of a fellow atheist when you express a personal distaste for that person. [/quote] Not true. There are a number of us atheists/agnostics who make a point to not defend people like DT, and to distinguish our positions from his. I have many times, including in this thread. In fact, my sense is that it is only a minority of that group who will do what you say they “always” do. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/171 "2008-04-03T18:53:48Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] …and yet it always ends in a Pitting. Funny, that. [/QUOTE] You should think long and hard about that. [QUOTE=MrDibble] And during those Pittings, some people come out who don’t participate in the GD debate with **DT** that inspired the Pitting at all. Funny that, too. [/QUOTE] That’s true of most pittings of posters, so I don’t see how that is “funny” at all. ---
**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/172 "2008-04-03T18:55:16Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > honest interlocutor That would be a good username, mods can I have that name ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/173 "2008-04-03T18:59:24Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Not true. There are a number of us atheists/agnostics who make a point to not defend people like DT, and to distinguish our positions from his. I have many times, including in this thread. In fact, my sense is that it is only a minority of that group who will do what you say they “always” do. [/QUOTE] In the spirit of Eddie Izzard, people look at DT and **Dibble** and go, “Well, they’re atheists.” Yeah, they’re fucking weirdo atheists. _I_ am an executive atheist. Weirdo atheists over there, executive atheists over here. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/174 "2008-04-03T18:59:33Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Not true. There are a number of us atheists/agnostics who make a point to not defend people like DT, and to distinguish our positions from his. I have many times, including in this thread. In fact, my sense is that it is only a minority of that group who will do what you say they “always” do. [/QUOTE] And I applaud your sense of individual rationality. But there are a group of usual suspects, **Mr Dibble** being one. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/175 "2008-04-03T19:21:03Z")
[QUOTE=LurkMeister] What I’m curious about is why **MrDibble** feels obliged to defend **Der Trihs** so ferociously. I’ve been following this thread and he’s been like a mother bear protecting her cub. [/QUOTE] It’s a “first they came for the most uppity atheists…” kind of thing. [QUOTE=Linty Fresh] Yeah, they’re fucking weirdo atheists. I am an executive atheist. Weirdo atheists over there, executive atheists over here. [/QUOTE] But I don’t expect a trusty like Linty to understand. There, there, I’m sure Massa Theist will pat you on the head before the thread is over. Good house-n…onbeliever. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/176 "2008-04-03T19:24:13Z")
I don’t go into Great Debates much, so I’m not familiar with how **Der Trihs** acts there, but I’ve seen him occasional here in the Pit and it didn’t take long for me to decide that he’s not interested in discussion or debate, just in rabid name-calling and shrill diatribes on his two favorite topics (does that make him a two-trick pony, btw?). “Arguing” with him is like firing a pellet gun at a Jell-O mold; it just goes through without accomplishing anything but making a mess. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/177 "2008-04-03T19:31:00Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] It’s a “first they came for the most uppity atheists…” kind of thing. But I don’t expect a trusty like Linty to understand. There, there, I’m sure Massa Theist will pat you on the head before the thread is over. Good house-n…onbeliever. [/QUOTE] For your information, I happen to be an atheist who believes that we had no business sending troops to Iraq. I just don’t think it is necessary to act like a raving lunatic when dealing with people who have beliefs or opinions different from mine. And as for your last sentence, I suggest that you either have the courage to say what you mean, or shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/178 "2008-04-03T19:36:47Z")
[QUOTE=LurkMeister] For your information, I happen to be an atheist who believes that we had no business sending troops to Iraq. I just don’t think it is necessary to act like a raving lunatic when dealing with people who have beliefs or opinions different from mine. [/QUOTE] I’d love examples of this “raving” you talk about. [QUOTE=LurkMeister] And as for your last sentence, I suggest that you either have the courage to say what you mean, or shut the fuck up. [/QUOTE] I said what I meant, and it wasn’t directed at you, anyway. So shut the fuck up, yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/179 "2008-04-03T21:01:44Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] I’d hardly call that thread “tossing my toys”, you must have a fairly low threshold for toy-tossing. And yes, I’d think bringing it up now definitely smacks of ass-chappedness to me. [/quote] Hey, I’d hardly expect you to put your hand up and just _admit_ to toy-tossing. Well, you have weighed yourself in the balance and not found yourself wanting. Whodathunk? As to people being ass-chapped for being told not to use the word “hottentot”, whyn’t you get over yourself? > [@MrDibble](#): > > Now who’s being disingenuous? For pointing out that object A can be “as black as” object B even if object B is not black? Dude, show me that dictionary you looked up “disingenuous” in. 😛 Y’all are surely aware that many Americans self-identify as Black even if their own skin tone is more the “high-yaller” end of the scale. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601/180 "2008-04-03T21:01:56Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] It’s a “first they came for the most uppity atheists…” kind of thing. [/QUOTE] Please. Actually, they’re just coming for the uppity assholes. Why is it you feel the need to protect that larger group? Look, nobody wants to see DT gone because he is an atheist. Or even an outspoken atheist. There are many on this board who, if they left, I’d, a Theist, be sad to see go. Similarly, there are many who want to yank us out out if Iraq tomorrow and do a good job of debating their points. Can you not comprehend that the vast majority of posters simply think he’s a douchebag—aside from his positions? As you point out, just look at how often he’s pitted? Just look how many people who share most of his views regarding atheism or Iraq can’t stand him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-der-trihs/443601.md?page=10)