# For fans of the Fletch books

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**Created:** [July 18, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fans-of-the-fletch-books/915631 "2020-07-18T01:05:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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A new _Fletch_ movie is in the works, produced and starring Jon Hamm. It will be based on the second book, _Confess Fletch_, which means we might get introduced to Gregory McDonald’s other great character Francis Xavier Flynn(NN13).

> **[‘Fletch’ Reboot With Jon Hamm in the Works](https://variety.com/2020/film/news/fletch-reboot-jon-hamm-1234707111/)**
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> A modern-day reboot of “Fletch” is in the works, with Jon Hamm set to star as the quick-witted investigative reporter character originally played by Chevy Chase in 1985’s “F…

Those two Chevy Chase abominations can rot in hell as far as I’m concerned.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Those two Chevy Chase abominations can rot in hell as far as I’m concerned.

What? And I used to consider you a person on a message board I read.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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Ever read the books?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Ever read the books

Sadly, I have not. But let me ask you this, is the name “John Coctostan” in the books?

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Ever read the books?

I have. Even the trailers for the Chevy Chase versions made me sick.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fans-of-the-fletch-books/915631/6 "2020-07-18T01:16:07Z")

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Huh, I’ve always heard positivity about the Fletch movies, especially the first one. I have not read the books, but one of my friends has and liked the Chevy Chase movies.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Sadly, I have not. But let me ask you this, is the name “John Coctostan” in the books

Do you mean “John Coxtolstoy”? Not as far as I can remember.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fans-of-the-fletch-books/915631/8 "2020-07-18T01:40:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Do you mean “John Coxtolstoy”? Not as far as I can remember

No, I mean “John Coctostan” That’s why before, I put “John Coctostan” in my post

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fans-of-the-fletch-books/915631/9 "2020-07-18T01:49:57Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> No, I mean “John Coctostan” That’s why before, I put “John Coctostan” in my post.

No, I don’t recall seeing that name in the book or hearing it in the movie.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> No, I don’t recall seeing that name in the book or hearing it in the movie

Definitely in the movie. And now the name of a menu item at Moe’s Southwest Grill.

So, you didn’t like the movies on their own, or because they didn’t follow the books?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fans-of-the-fletch-books/915631/11 "2020-07-18T02:04:15Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Definitely in the movie. And now the name of a menu item at Moe’s Southwest Grill.
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> So, you didn’t like the movies on their own, or because they didn’t follow the books

When I heard it in the movie, it sounded like John “Coxtolstoy”.  
The movies were opportunities for Chase to mug, and his character did not remind me of I.M. Fletcher at all.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The movies were opportunities for Chase to mug, and his character did not remind me of I.M. Fletcher at al

Fair enough. I liked the “mugging” I enjoy characters who are bitter and sarcastic, even in the face of danger.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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That is why I titled this thread “For fans of the Fletch books”.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That is why I titled this thread “For fans of the Fletch books”

Well, on one hand I would say you mentioned the movies in your OP

On the other hand I would say I should learn to read thread titles.

I’m not going to tell you what I’m doing with my third hand.

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I read Fletch Too and saw the movies. Different things altogether. Chevy Chase doesn’t get any better than in the Fletch movies, which is quite sad because they weren’t very good.

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I am absolutely a fan of the Fletch books and those shitgarbage movies need flushing. Jon Hamm is a much closer match to the character, being, y’know, good looking. OMG, who should play Flynn? I’m all aflutter.

BTW, McDonald also wrote a slew of non-Fletch/Flynn books which are criminally unknown. Such a highly underrated writer.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I read Fletch Too and saw the movies

Did you read any of the “Flynn” books?

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Whereas I, you see, like the books _and_ the movies. No, they weren’t all that faithful, but I don’t care. I _like_ watching Chevy be Chevy. Is it Art? Fuck no. But it entertains me on a Saturday afternoon

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fans-of-the-fletch-books/915631/19 "2020-07-18T04:05:10Z")

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Nope, just the one book. That was a long time ago, I remember I liked it, and wanted to find the first Fletch book but a lot of life has passed twixt then and now without it ever coming up again until today.

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They should have cast Tommy Lee Jones back in 1985.

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