# For fuck's sake, people, it's just a boob. Get over it.

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**Created:** [February 2, 2004, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144 "2004-02-02T04:18:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/241 "2004-02-05T01:48:18Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> This whole “I didn’t see it coming” defense is a load of fucking shit and I’ll tell you why.
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> it presumes that is something wrong with a tit to _begin_ with. If there’s nothing wrong with seeing a tit (as most of us have agreed) then wtf difference does it make if you see one by surprise. How does the element of surprise make it harmful? Does it matter if you see an _elbow_ by surprise? How is a tit any different? How are you precious little brats harmed by seeing a surprise flash of tit? Please explain it to me because so far nobody has.
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> I know some people don’t want to see tits. I don’t give a FUCK about those people. They have an irrational hang-up and that hang-up does not deserve to be nurtured or pandered to.
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> There are people who were probably offended at seeing a white guy dancing with a black chick. Why do mammophobic morons deserve any more consideration than racist morons? (I’m not comparing mammophobes with racists on an evil scale, just on a stupidity scale).

Then you, and/or the people who feel this strongly about the need to see whatever body part, in whatever action, anytime, anyplace, need to campaign and petition to get the rules changed to that.

As it stood on the day of the superbowl, there were rules in place, they were broken. And they were broken without the consent of the viewing public.

It’s not a matter of them having been “harmed”. It’s a matter of appropiate behavior in the appropriate place. People have a reasonable expectations that certain places and times are to be treated with a measure of respect and decorum.

The example I used earlier was that of my former dance team. The performances that we put together for a crowd of college students was FAR different than that which we’d put together for the annual christmas show at the old folks home.

It’s not a matter of anyone being “hung up” or harmed by the breasts or inappropriate behaviour, it’s a matter of simple respect.

As I said in the other thread, I was MOST disgusted by Janet’s lack of dancing choreography in the performance. I’m arguing this point NOT because I’m so hung up on boobs, I have a pair, and they’re a LOT of fun.

I don’t speak for everyone else in this thread, or who is on the “this was inappropriate” side. This is just my personal viewpoint. I don’t think it deserves “oh my God the sky is falling” status either.

But neither do I think that it deserves “sweep it under the rug and let them just get away with it” status.

IT’s not a case of “either/or” more important issues CAN still be dealt with and shown on the news, AND this one can still be discussed and dealt with too.

Your points of “people are too hung up on boobs and sex” has some validity. But again, there IS a time and place to make your statement. This wasn’t it. They screwed up.

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**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/242 "2004-02-05T02:15:10Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Should you act surprised if the restaurant has a huge XXX flashing on the outside?
> 
> They announced the halftime performers like 50 fucking times, and if people are too stupid to figure out that it wouldn’t be family safe, then they should go join the lemmings.
> 
> You assholes want the government and the networks to do the job the parent should be doing.

Cinemax has a metaphorical XXX. Not CBS in the early evening. How can a parent do their job (I presume their job is knowing what their kids are watching) if the network/performers/whoever change the rules without warning? And thanks for letting me know I’m an asshole.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/243 "2004-02-05T02:44:28Z")

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> [@alibey](#):
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> I have seen boobs on English TV on the Bennie Hill show. OK, it was a re-run shown on a station out of Kansas City, but there they were, unfuzzed boobies. That was back in the early '80s.

I remember seeing that too!! She was hanging out of an upper-story window, and they showed her boobs unfuzzed. I couldn’t have been more than ten or eleven years old, but I still remember.

Off to rob a liquor store.

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**Author:** ![ccwaterback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@ccwaterback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ccwaterback)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/244 "2004-02-05T03:50:02Z")

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She conspired to break the law. She broke the law. She should be arrested and tried like anyone else.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/245 "2004-02-05T04:20:15Z")

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> [@ccwaterback](#):
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> She conspired to break the law. She broke the law. She should be arrested and tried like anyone else.

What law would that be?

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**Author:** ![ccwaterback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@ccwaterback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ccwaterback)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/246 "2004-02-05T04:46:09Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> What law would that be?

HA! Well if you scroll back to the top of the page and follow my posts …

Displaying nippleness in public is against the law. That’s why they put those black boxes over any picture that displays nippleness. That’s why they require strippers to wear pasties. Etc.

So Janet admits they planned the nippleness stunt, she knows nippleness on public TV is against the law, therefor she conspired to break the law, and she followed through. What happens to Josephine Blow if she does this? She gets arrested and tried. Why should JJ be treated any different?

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/247 "2004-02-05T05:16:36Z")

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Isn’t it more of an FCC regulation than a law, and doesn’t it carry a fine, not to the performer but to the broadcaster, and isn’t that penalty probably about to be carried out?

[pardon me for butting in, please]

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/248 "2004-02-05T05:37:36Z")

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Nope. There is no moral component to this whatsoever if you look at it as a fun legal distraction among celebrities you don’t particularly like, as I do.

About, eh, 12 years ago the MBI (Metro Bureau Investigation – sounds serious, right?) went around “measuring the nipple coverings” on the local strippers. Yes, police enlistment went up dramatically, and we all felt much safer. Why shouldn’t these rich assholes with no common sense at least suffer some of the indignities of their moral and intellectual peers, strippers?

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/249 "2004-02-05T05:49:23Z")

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jezus. You all still talking about a breast?

tsk tsk tsk.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/250 "2004-02-05T05:57:58Z")

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That was in response to the argument that somehow anyone who thinks there should be repercussions is anti-boob. I am pro-boob. No candidate has been more pro-boob throughout his whole career than I have. Only Washington insiders, big boobs, don’t understand the little guy.

The only thing worse for bumping this for stupid correction is bumping it for someone bumping it. Someone will come in and grind on this thread next. I, for one, won’t stand for it.

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**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/251 "2004-02-05T07:10:20Z")

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> [@John Carter of Mars](#):
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> Heh: I do believe **CheekyMonkey** has been eating some of that Canadian beef. Caught the Mad Cow stuff, poor soul. Now, according to stories from Vancouver, he’ll have to be avoidin’ the Canadian Bacon as well. 😉

Dude, if I am not mistaken in your reference, you are seriously offside. Definitely NOT a laughing matter.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/252 "2004-02-05T18:51:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Funny how I never saw a boob on British tv, though I’ve seen a few bums in my day, all on public tv in America when I was a tyke.

I was in London for a week in '95 and saw boobs on a prime-time soap opera type show.

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**Author:** ![bettyspaghetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@bettyspaghetti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bettyspaghetti)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/253 "2004-02-05T19:07:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Displaying nippleness in public is against the law. That’s why they put those black boxes over any picture that displays nippleness. That’s why they require strippers to wear pasties. Etc.

Either we decriminalize the female breast or we make all nipple exposures criminal, including men’s. Don’t tell me the male nipple cannot be equated with sex either!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/254 "2004-02-05T19:46:46Z")

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> [@sugaree](#):
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> Cinemax has a metaphorical XXX. Not CBS in the early evening. How can a parent do their job (I presume their job is knowing what their kids are watching) if the network/performers/whoever change the rules without warning? And thanks for letting me know I’m an asshole.

So can I assume you were “cool” with things up until the nipple?

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**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/255 "2004-02-05T23:17:44Z")

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Didn’t see any of it. Not a football fan.

I do avoid MTV like the plague, but more because the acts featured usually offend my musical tastes. If I remember correctly, MTV blurs out female breasts.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/256 "2004-02-06T00:35:13Z")

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> [@sugaree](#):
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> Didn’t see any of it. Not a football fan.
> 
> I do avoid MTV like the plague, but more because the acts featured usually offend my musical tastes. If I remember correctly, MTV blurs out female breasts.

Well just to bring you up to speed, it was pretty foul way before the nipple thing, that was the icing on the cake. Of course if nipplegate hadn’t have gone down, no one would have complained about the rest of the show.

What I find laughable is these tightasses who didn’t seem to have a problem with Nelly holding his crotch and singing “hot in here, take off yo clothes”, while dancers where disrobing, and then JJ and Timberlake grinding the shit out of each other, way before the nipple thing.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/257 "2004-02-06T01:17:37Z")

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Can’t I enjoy some celebrity schadenfreude (whew) without suggesting, however slightly that I might be a “tightass”? Though I must say, on superficial analysis, that might be better than the alternative.

I, personally, hope every Christian conservative devotes every wanking hour of every day to this issue. This is the greatest single issue of importance in my lifetime. Nothing is more important that getting to the bottom of that nipple appliance. WTF?

Seriously. Why? I like Janet Jackson’s confess… apology. I’ve heard CBS greenlighted the whole thing. That means, you guessed it, litigation. Wee! The feds don’t have to spend much money to investigate this, and can collect loads of fines – all while embarassing some of the most self-centered rich jackasses in entertainment. I’m hoping the locals get involved too. “Deep pockets” and all that. It’s a win-win situation.

Last I checked, there is no “celebrity” exception to the rules governing, ahem, this sort of conduct. Hee-hee! It’s time the FCC made these people pay some money to show us breast. This is not exactly Iranian morality, folks.

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**Author:** ![JerseyDiamond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@JerseyDiamond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerseyDiamond)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/258 "2004-02-06T06:05:49Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> [sarcasm]Won’t someone please think of the CHILDREN?[/sarcasm]
> 
> Seriously, how in the hell is the sight of a breast going to injure a child. The parents that are worried about it are irrational, uptight fucks who deserve no respect or attention.
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> My 4 year old daughter was watching. She laughed. She forgot about it nine seconds later. She was still alive and healthy this morning.
> 
> I really would like an explanation as to why children need to be shielded from seeing boobies.

LOL@Diogenes 😃

Hey, maybe you can market blind folds for breastfed babies; for all the people who think boobie are damaging to children!

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**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/259 "2004-02-06T12:11:40Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Well just to bring you up to speed, it was pretty foul way before the nipple thing, that was the icing on the cake. Of course if nipplegate hadn’t have gone down, no one would have complained about the rest of the show.

Well, one of the problems there is that crotch-grabbing is pretty much a given on televised sports events. It’s really not much of a leap from baseball players adjusting their cups to Nelly clutching his jewels. Someone needs to tell all the crotch-centered performers that it’s about the same amount of erotic too.

I don’t think people wouldn’t have complained. I hear people bitch about tacky MTV-style costumes, choreography, and vulgar lyrics, and look at the fuss over Madonna, Britney, and Christina’s souless and sterile kiss. But AFAIK, nothing went against regulations until the nipple.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-fucks-sake-people-its-just-a-boob-get-over-it/227144/260 "2004-02-06T12:37:31Z")

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> [@Beagle](#):
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> I, personally, hope every Christian conservative devotes every **wanking** hour of every day to this issue.

Ah, the wanking hour, that most magical of times …

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