# For God's sake, let the guy take his boyfriend to the prom! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 12, 2002, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228 "2002-04-12T13:50:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2002, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/221 "2002-05-11T07:19:08Z")
JS I have to keep checking to see what forum this is in. Oh, that’s right, it’s GD. I put forward my own interpretation of a phrase, but acknowledged another interpretation. You challenged my statement that others seem to interpret that way, which was not to polite to begin with (seeing as it implies that I was lying). But I humoured you, and provided a cite. You responded with a completely off-topic and slightly more rude claim. When I politely asked you to explain your cliam, you responded with an outright insult. As I said, I have to keep checking to see which forum this is. ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2002, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/222 "2002-05-11T10:05:40Z")
**The Ryan** , I have struggled through your countless posts and have found no sense or valid points in any of them. Your posts go in circles. They say nothing. You’ve been taken to the Pit before. Do you want to be taken there again? **We won.** Case closed. I’d use more harsh language but this is GD, not the Pit. - s.e. ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2002, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/223 "2002-05-11T20:52:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jerevan Somerville \* > \*\*No, **Polycarp** , my homosexual debating and typing skills required no special training. They flow entirely from my homosexual orientation. Tsk, tsk, haven’t you been paying attention? 😕 > \*\* You’re gay? Talk to me! 🙂 - s.e. P.S.: **We won**. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/224 "2002-05-12T01:38:49Z")
_pops non-alcoholic champagne_ In Toronto, Ontario, An odyssey of Social norms and teenage love Marc and JP, so patient and so calm Pinned their pink corsages on… and went to the prom! _with apologies to R&P_ My own prom (at a secular school, I might add) was so dreadful I left at midnight. A great big bad memory. Glad Marc enjoyed his. :mad:🆒:):D:eek:😕 Scott… sorry to hear you’re laid up, not laid… Jerevan, bienvenue aux forums! Say hi to Andygirl next time she’s in Delaware. ---
**Author:** ![Jerevan\_Somerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@Jerevan\_Somerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerevan_Somerville)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/225 "2002-05-12T01:55:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by scott evil \* > You’re gay? “I don’t believe that has been established.” [establishment] “Eddie, have you got something I can pee into?” [hands off wine bottle]“Wash it, this time! … Anyway, who was it you were with last night, Pats?” “Just a windscreen washer I picked up at the traffic light. Buns so tight he was bouncing off the walls --” “Bye, Pats.” [/establishment] _Of course_, I’m gay, sweetie – you catch on _rapidement_. Not all gay men are named Marc [sic], Rick or Steve, you know. Damn, just gave away Top Secret info to **Polycarp**. Bugger, bugger, bugger. Scott, I am very pleased that Marc won his case. I was not even out to myself in high school, so I can’t even imagine the courage it took to fight this kind of discrimination. And let’s not forget his parents; they must be special people, too. I am also very pleased that you started this thread, because I think this was a very important case. Straight people, however well-intended, are sometimes oblivious to how often their “heterosexual orientation” comes up during the course of a normal day. Heterosexual conduct is everywhere, and they don’t always grasp how we homosexuals live in two worlds simultaneously. So, to hold an event like a prom, and then pretend it’s _not_ about orientation… well! Someone got snapped back. And like you I toned down my final response to what’s-his-name because this is, after all, Great Debates. But I could make a hell of a BBQ with that boy. . . Too bad the thread didn’t start a bit earlier. I was just to Montreal for a vacation two weekends ago. Stayed at the Hotel Wyndham, shopping (“Oh, I _think_ so”) all along rue Ste-Catherine, dinner at Area, checked out Sky Bar. Too bad KOX is gone. Ah well. Toronto’s scene isn’t so bad either, and gets a certain anonymous visibility on _Queer as Folk_. But I digress. “C’mon, Pats, I’ll get that A-to-street-map-thing I always use. . .” **matt\_mcl** : \* Je te remercie de Delaware\*, so close to where you’d rather be. Who’s **andygirl**? ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/226 "2002-05-12T03:00:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jerevan Somerville \* > “Eddie, have you got something I can pee into?” > [hands off wine bottle]“Wash it, this time! … Anyway, who was it you were with last night, Pats?” > “Just a windscreen washer I picked up at the traffic light. Buns so tight he was bouncing off the walls --” > “Bye, Pats.” Oh, an AbFab reference so detailed wins the way to my heart, sweetie. Your example was actually my sig line for a couple of weeks. 🙂 It’s too bad you missed my AbFab trivia contests on the board. Maybe I shall do another one just for you. Email me, babe. - s.e. ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/227 "2002-05-12T03:11:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > **Scott… sorry to hear you’re laid up, not laid** I’m laid up **because** I got laid. Long story. -s.e. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/228 "2002-05-12T05:05:21Z")
“Oy, shopgirl!” 😉 Esprix ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/229 "2002-05-12T10:09:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*“Oy, shopgirl!” > > ;)\*\* [gay hijack] “Oy, bitch nurse!” “You only work in a shop, you know. You can drop the attitude.” [/gay hijack] 😃 - s.e. ---
**Author:** ![Jerevan\_Somerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@Jerevan\_Somerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerevan_Somerville)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/230 "2002-05-12T13:54:59Z")
**scott** , I quoted that because I did notice your signature at the start of the thread. . . and later forgot about it when the thread started to get tangled. Got your email from your profile. I’ll write to you directly soon. But one final Ab Fab reference which is pertinent to this thread: “Not eating, Patsy?” “Liquid lunch for me, Mrs. M.” “No wonder you’re as thin as a rake. Men _like_ something to get hold of – isn’t that right, Oliver?” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/231 "2002-05-12T17:29:48Z")
**Jerevan** , I’d figured that out from your use of “we” and “us” in appropriate contexts. 😉 **Andygirl** , for the record, is one wonderful young lady, now attending Dartmouth U. (“a small college, but there are those who love it”) who hails from Rehoboth Beach, DE (although given that community’s reputation, it needs to be noted that she was raised there by heterosexual parents). She has been coordinating Internet groups (listservs and such) for gay teens since what seems like forever, is a terrific person. Both **matt\_mcl** and I know her real name and, more or less, how to contact her other than through this board or the newsgroups. She’s been, I believe, in Europe and hence rather silent around here of late, but is somebody you absolutely need to meet. ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/232 "2002-05-12T20:56:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jerevan Somerville \* > \*\* > But one final Ab Fab reference which is pertinent to this thread: > > “Not eating, Patsy?” > “Liquid lunch for me, Mrs. M.” > “No wonder you’re as thin as a rake. Men _like_ something to get hold of – isn’t that right, Oliver?” > > 😃 \*\* :: **scott evil** swoons:: If you can tell me Bo’s whole name, I’ll be in love. 😉 I am, of course, the SDMB reigning champion of, and expert on, AbFab trivia… 😃 - s.e. ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/233 "2002-05-12T22:06:05Z")
Ah, you flatter me, Poly. Charmed to meet you, Jerevan. I suppose I’ll have to make a snotty remark about living above the canal with you mentioning that I’m from Slower Lower sometime, eh? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jerevan\_Somerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@Jerevan\_Somerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerevan_Somerville)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/234 "2002-05-13T01:36:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andygirl \* > \*\*Charmed to meet you, Jerevan. I suppose I’ll have to make a snotty remark about living above the canal with you mentioning that I’m from Slower Lower sometime, eh? 😉 Likewise, I’m sure, **andygirl**. You came back just in time, too… they were starting to talk about you! Given their reputation, I think Rehoboth and the rest of the Delaware beaches are saved from a general lumping-in with the rest of “Slower Delaware”. 😉 I ought to update my profile with my email address… I signed on (originally) from work so I didn’t want to put that address in my profile. **scott\_evil**. Um, sh\*\*. You have me there. I know I _should_\* know it, but can’t seem to ferret out the memory. I guess there’s a reason you’re the reigning champ. “Is this a lemon I see in Marshall’s water?” “Not a _whole_ one.” “What time were we aiming for eating?” “I was aiming for two o’clock-ish – I haven’t got an exact schedule.” “Marshall may need to eat sooner. He’s hypoglycemic. He gets low blood sugar and constipation if I don’t mash it up.” “… but who does God want me to be today: blond, brunette – Shaft?” ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/235 "2002-05-13T02:36:28Z")
“When is the last time you had something to eat, Pats?” “1974…” Esprix, who also frequented Rehomo Beach, Delaware, but, sadly, never met **andygirl**. ☹ Esprix ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/236 "2002-05-14T16:50:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*“When is the last time you had something to eat, Pats?” > > “1974…” > \*\* [nitpick]“Have you eaten anything, Pats?” “No, not since **1973**.”[/nitpick] 😃 - s.e. ---
**Author:** ![Jerevan\_Somerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@Jerevan\_Somerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerevan_Somerville)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/237 "2002-05-14T16:58:19Z")
_“The winner and still champ…”_ I noticed that as well, **scott-e** dear, but wasn’t going to be so, er, picky as to point it out. We could just take away his Card. 😛 “_Neat_? She was so anally retentive that she couldn’t sit down for fear of _sucking up_ the furniture.” ---
**Author:** ![Jerevan\_Somerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@Jerevan\_Somerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerevan_Somerville)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/238 "2002-05-14T17:01:40Z")
And in **Esprix** ’s defense, Jennifer and/or the writers got that wrong in the latest/fourth season, where Edina says that Pats hasn’t eaten anything since 1974. Pats corrects her by saying, “Except for that crisp!” on New Year’s Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/239 "2002-05-14T17:58:43Z")
In view of the idea that this thread has moved from argue-the-application-of-Canadian-law-to-religious-based-schools to argue-semantics-with-TheRyan to top-my-AbFab-trivia-skills, I think it’s time to climb aboard my trusty stallion and ride off into the sunset. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228/240 "2002-05-14T18:38:09Z")
Fabulous, darling, fabulous. How about some lovely… _photos?_ Esprix [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-gods-sake-let-the-guy-take-his-boyfriend-to-the-prom/103228.md?page=13)