For My German Doper Friends (Or Whomever Has Travelled Extensively In Germany)

IMO, the fastest and easiest way for the first half of your trip would be something like:

Frankfurt -> Bonn by train. There is a IC/ICE train each two hours from the main terminal in Frankfurt airport to Bonn city-center, 10 minutes walk from Beethoven house. The trip takes ~ 2 hours. If you fly with Lufthansa from US, you can have the train ticket included in the flight price, or at least heavily discounted (when booking, Lufthansa offers you Cologne/Bonn train station as a destination).
I’d guess this is at least as fast as coming from Düsseldorf to Bonn.

The public transportation in Bonn is very good and it is integrated with the one in Cologne (that is, you can use one ticket to go from one to the other via train, tramway or bus). But 3 days for Bonn is too much, unless you want to have a good look at each piece exhibited in each museum in Bonn. So I second the above recommendations: don’t miss Cologne! There are several museums worth visiting (I’ve visited Wallraf museum a couple of weeks ago and I really liked it), not to mention the cathedral.

For sightseeing, there is also Drachenfels, a hill next to Bonn easily reachable by public transportation with a ruined fortification on its top and a small castle on its slopes. Alternatively, you can go there by boat; there are several companies providing trips up and down the Rhine. The hill is serviced by an electric train, so its top is accessible even if you’re not in great physical shape. From the top of the hill you have a great view of the surrounding area.

You can stay in either Bonn or Cologne, as it takes only 30 minutes to go from Bonn to Cologne by public transportation.

Bonn/Cologne -> Vienna: there are direct flights from Cologne/Bonn airport to Vienna (at least 3/day by Lufthansa IIRC, but you can check Germanwings too - they’re a low-cost Lufthansa). The airport is reachable in ~ 30 minutes from both Bonn and Cologne by public transportation (not to mention by taxi).
If you plan the trip well in advance, you can probably get the tickets really cheap. There is also a direct ICE train from Bonn to Vienna (through Frankfurt), but it takes 9 hours and probably costs the same as a flying.

I don’t know about the second part of your trip, but for the first part I don’t think you need a car, especially if you go directly from Bonn to Vienna. The distances involved are quite big, it will cost quite a lot (rental + fuel) and it may be tiresome to drive that long. The only drawback I can see is that you’d have to handle the baggage, though that’s not such a big problem if you allow enough time.

Oh, where were you the two times I went to Cologne??

Cologne really was great. I regret spending too much time at work, though. My hotel was walking distance from the Dom, though, and near a great area with awesome restaurants and shoppes. (It’s said that my company location there and the Dom were the only two things not flattened during the war.)

Edit: Cologne really reminded me of how much I missed Germany in general (I was stationed in the Army in Hanau in the early 1990s). My last trip to Cologne coincided with Christmas, so the Weihnachtsmarkts and the Glühwein were especially fun. Actually, it was American Thanksgiving, and so I got my turkey-kabob there!

This may drop me in some of your “esteem-meters”, but my favorite Pils is Bitburger (“Bitte ein Bit!”).

However, I am always open to new suggestions and tastes.

When in Rothenburg, I drink hefeweizen and I also like Diebels Alt (bier), which I drank while living in Moenchengladbach for a short time.

But Rheintochter (and everyone else), we do want to see the cathedral and everything else in Köln, while we’re in the neighborhood, so if you will send me a pm and we could keep in touch, that would be great, thanks.

Thanks to all of you for answering me here. We’re going to take all the suggestions and build our trip from them.

Thanks

Q

(Emphasis mine)

Well, Quasi, I’m afraid you won’t hear again from Rheintochter:smiley:

PM sent - now that I’ve overcome my shock! :wink:
Seriously though - I’d be happy to meet you here, show you the city and explain the little rivalries between places like Köln und Düsseldorf and why there is so much bickering over beer. :slight_smile:
Maybe EinsteinsHund would like to join us?
And to be completely honest: I very much prefer wine over beer, so I hope will find something for everyone. :wink:

That’ll be great if I can find the time. Though my grandfather was born in Cologne, I still have relatives there and I’ve been to Cologne umpteen times, I don’t know the city very well. So this would be as interesting for me as for Quasi (though I already understand the Köln/Düsseldorf feud). Maybe you could wear your “Mein Freund ist Sauerländer” t-shirt on this occasion, this would make it easier for me. :wink:

PM replied to, Rheintochter, and thanks for the offer once again. And if it’ll get EH there, I’ll be happy to wear my Doper t-shirt and rose in my mouth!

Honestly, though, I have a wide open mind when it comes to beers and D likes some wines (mostly white). I too have been known to drink the occasional piccolo of Sekt. :wink:

Thanks!

Quasi

  1. We’ve changed our itinerary (still temporary) to 2 nights in Bonn. Rheintochter (or anyone who has time), can you recommend a reasonably priced Hotel or Gasthaus in Bonn. (Maybe 35-45 Euros per night)? A pension or Zimmer Frei would be okay, but we’d rather a more private accomodation.

  2. It looks like we can fly Germanwings from Bonn to Vienna for about 80 Euros for both of us

  3. And Germanwings from Vienna to München for 100 Euros

  4. And then the train from München to Rothenburg : 90 Euros

Does this sound feasible or do you have other suggestions?

Thanks very much!

Quasi

I know the above itinerary isn’t the one suggested, but I have family coming to Rothenburg from East Germany (quite a drive) and they can only come during certain times of the week.

But as I said this is still temporary, and will change many times, I’m sure.

Thanks

Q

Just a stone’s throw from the Nurburgring, although as I understand it, the rental car companies can be a bit touchy about that sort of thing.

Wow! I can tell it’s been a while since I last flew home!

Taxes and surcharges ($526.00 per person) are almost as much as the ticket ($644.00) per person on Lufthansa basic economy!

Q

But Lufthansa has always been very expensive compared to the cheaper ones because they offer so many connections.

The latest tax is the Luftverkehrsabgabe, an attempt to curb unneccessary flying becaus tickets are cheaper on Germanwings than on Deutsche Bahn.

Bonn-Vienna by plane is quick.