# For once, I'm proud of my State Legislature **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 2, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739 "2005-09-02T15:15:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/1 "2005-09-02T15:15:31Z")
[Link.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168271,00.html) 'Bout freaking time! No court ruling, no overturned law. Just some people doing what is right. Let’s hope the Assembly feels the same way. ---
**Author:** ![Jeeves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@Jeeves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeeves)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/2 "2005-09-02T16:06:16Z")
I hope the assembly does. I didn’t expect it to pass the senate, after I had listened to the debate when it was originally in the assembly, and it failed by so narrow a margin. I hope that the cowards who didn’t vote in the assembly the first time, allowing it to fail, do so now. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/3 "2005-09-02T17:56:29Z")
I salute them. It’s high time we quit persecuting the gays for their God-given sexuality. ---
**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/4 "2005-09-02T18:10:52Z")
**:applause:** ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/5 "2005-09-02T18:20:43Z")
Hooray! Oh, and I loved Tom McClintock’s [disparagement of my marriage](http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/02/MNGSJEHC341.DTL) by saying that “marriage is formed for a fundamental purpose- to bring a new life into the world.” Wonder when he’s going to introduce a bill prohibiting any couple that’s not already pregnant from getting married? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/6 "2005-09-02T18:51:15Z")
Would this have to be signed by the Governor? Is he likely to sign it into law? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/7 "2005-09-02T18:55:36Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Would this have to be signed by the Governor? Is he likely to sign it into law? Our gov’t is just like the Feds. If it is passed by both houses, the Gov has to sign it. He can veto and the veto can be overridden. It probably won’t pass the lower house but if it does, the Gov will probably sign it. No way it gets overridden if the Gov vetos. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/8 "2005-09-02T19:02:57Z")
Damn those activist [del]Judges[/del] representatives. ---
**Author:** ![TJdude825](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@TJdude825](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TJdude825)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/9 "2005-09-03T09:01:31Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > Damn those activist [del]Judges[/del] representatives. Honestly. It’s as if they think that can just rewrite the laws whenever they feel like it! > [@dalej42](#): > > Would this have to be signed by the Governor? Is he likely to sign it into law? > [@365gay.com](#): > > But, even if the bill passes the Assembly there is no guarantee it would be signed by Gov. Schwarzenegger. > > The governor has sent mixed messages about whether he would sign the legislation if it were passed. [http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/09/090105calSenate.htm](http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/09/090105calSenate.htm) Interestingly enough, our assemblyman (Mike Gordon of District 53) died unexpectedly a few months ago, so we are temporarily without representation in the Assembly. What makes it even more interesting is that I just turned 18, so the special election for his position is the first one that I’ll be able to participate in. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/10 "2005-09-03T15:32:34Z")
Moving thread from IMHO to MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/11 "2005-09-03T16:12:04Z")
About freakin’ time! There’s a governing body I can respect I think I’m going to spend a few minutes today writing a letter, pop it off to some of the assemblymen of California. “I’m not a resident of your state, but I just want to let you know I whole-heartedly applaud what you’re doing…” ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/12 "2005-09-03T18:29:28Z")
> [@Anne Neville](#): > > Hooray! > > Oh, and I loved Tom McClintock’s [disparagement of my marriage](http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/02/MNGSJEHC341.DTL) by saying that “marriage is formed for a fundamental purpose- to bring a new life into the world.” > > Wonder when he’s going to introduce a bill prohibiting any couple that’s not already pregnant from getting married? Or banning anyone who is sterile from ever getting married. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/13 "2005-09-03T20:45:15Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > Damn those activist [del]Judges[/del] representatives. Fundamental misunderstanding. When judges create law, it _is_ activist. When legislators create law, it is a proper exercise of their office. The legislature creates the law. The judges interpret it. ---
**Author:** ![Grelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a5b964/32.png) [@Grelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grelby)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/14 "2005-09-03T22:38:07Z")
**Bricker** , I think you may just have been mildly whooshed. The way I saw **Scott Plaid’s** comment was this: 1. Opponents of SSM complained about “activist judges” when the MA SJC ruled that SSM could not be forbidden under the state constitution, saying that such laws MUST be passed by legislature as the “will of the people.” 2. This law was passed by the legislature (Well, by part of it). 3. In one of the articles above (don’t remember which one) one of the opponents was cited as saying (paraphrased): “The people will be upset to learn that the legislature defied their votes in 2000, this is not their will.” 4. WTF? I dunno, that’s the way I saw it. More of a comment on the cognitive dissonance one may experience upon seeing those two arguments next to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Grelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a5b964/32.png) [@Grelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grelby)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/15 "2005-09-03T22:48:43Z")
Er, by the way… WTFG California senate! Um, with the exceptions of: Dennis Hollingsworth, because he’s a patronizing dick: > [@](#): > > I don’t think there is a member in this chamber who doesn’t somewhere – either readily on the surface or somewhere deep down inside – know that this is not the right thing to do… Where does that come from? It comes from a higher power. And also because he’s a moron: > [@](#): > > This is not the right thing to do… We should protect traditional marriage and uphold all of those values and institutions that have made our society and keep our society together today. Tom McClintock, because he’s obstinately short-sighted: > [@](#): > > Can’t you see that marriage is a fundamentally different institution? Uh, nope… And because he’s a dick: > [@](#): > > The reason marriage is fundamentally different from a civil contract is that marriage is formed for a fundamental purpose – that is, to bring a new life into the world. Uh, and a moron. But for the rest of them… pats on the back all round! I disagree with the positions of those who voted no, but there are no outstanding quotes calling attention to any more bone-headedness than usual on their respective parts, so they get the benefit of the doubt. Cheers, California! Good luck in the Assembly. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/16 "2005-09-04T06:12:13Z")
Congrats California! Even though I moved from there to Las Vegas, I still have a very high regard for the politics in that State - and this is just another example why. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Arnold didn’t veto it and actually signed it into law. He has followed the party line about not supporting Gay marriage, but at the same time, he has left many a door open and I don’t think anyone could accuse him of being homophobic. He might not want to lead the parade, but I doubt he will go to any great lengths to stop it from happening either. Will be interesting to see how this progresses. My SO and I registered as domestic partners in West Hollywood years ago - it was mandatory in order to get health insurance for him when I was working for a film studio. We will be one of the first to drive over and get married there, once it becomes legal! ---
**Author:** ![Jeeves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@Jeeves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeeves)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/17 "2005-09-07T03:23:23Z")
THE ASSEMBLY JUST PASSED THE BILL! Now, all that remains is to get Arnold’s signature, and gay marriage will be in California! Woohooo!! ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/18 "2005-09-07T03:28:33Z")
Thank you, Jeeves. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/19 "2005-09-07T05:03:29Z")
The vote was [41-35.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168643,00.html) OK, Arnie. Show us you have the stones to sign it. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739/20 "2005-09-07T05:06:50Z")
Anyone else find it ironic that a governor in the “no activist judges” party is [looking to the courts](http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/09/090605calAss.htm) to settle the marriage question? > [@Press Secretary Margita Thompson](#): > > It’s now before the courts, which is where the governor believes it belongs. He will uphold whatever the court decides. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-once-im-proud-of-my-state-legislature/319739.md?page=2)