# For our new friend Timo **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 21, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775 "2013-08-21T03:34:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/61 "2013-08-21T23:10:28Z")
So, I think we need to add a warning to the GD forum description. \*This is also the place for religious debates and (if you feel you must) witnessing. \* Should be changed to something with a warning about witnessing here. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/62 "2013-08-21T23:23:46Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Well, now that I’ve sobered up somewhat, let me explain my pitting. There should be zero tolerance on this board, in society and everywhere people exist for the “sincere” belief in godlike creatures. It’s ridiculous, offensive, and stupid. I’ve had all I can take of this craziness and I will not sit quietly by anymore. I’m not saying we should execute believers, but laughing at them at every opportunity would go a long way to lowering my blood pressure. With a statement like that is it safe to assume the people like yourself if put into positions of power and authority would persecute those who did not think like you? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/63 "2013-08-21T23:35:56Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > With a statement like that is it safe to assume the people like yourself if put into positions of power and authority would persecute those who did not think like you? No. I’d be cool. You’d know how it feels if your were surrounded by a society that worshiped unicorns despite the complete absence of evidence of their existence. Not sure how tolerant you’d be as the decades wore on, and even the sane people thought we should humor the unicorn worshipers. Shouldn’t someone say the emperor had no clothes? . ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/64 "2013-08-21T23:42:33Z")
Doubtful. People who think others should be punished for thinking differently than they do are called **Extremists**. They aren’t known for being wise, forgiving or tolerant. Dude, you’re one of them. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/65 "2013-08-21T23:44:02Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Shouldn’t someone say the emperor had no clothes? No one wants to stop you from making your argument, but that’s not what you said; > [@Procrustus](#): > > There should be zero tolerance on this board, in society and everywhere people exist for the “sincere” belief in godlike creatures. It’s ridiculous, offensive, and stupid. I’ve had all I can take of this craziness and I will not sit quietly by anymore. I’m not saying we should execute believers, but laughing at them at every opportunity You want to argue, go right ahead, in fact **Timo** is looking for a good debate. He seems to like to hear other positions as well he should. You want to be a prick about it, well then that’s a different story… ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/66 "2013-08-21T23:57:12Z")
There’s really not room for debate. That’s why these guys are so annoying. I would simply like it if people stopped pretending that belief in gods was debatable. Sure, there are some very nice believers. There are some smart ones too. Bottom line though, god, as they conceive it/him doesn’t exist. Belief and disbelief in gods are not two equally valid alternative world views. Sorry to have to break it to some of you. I cannot for the life of me understand why we should respect a belief that is literally as outrageous as the tooth fairy. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/67 "2013-08-22T00:19:23Z")
What’s that about the Tooth Fairy now? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/68 "2013-08-22T00:59:19Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > There’s really not room for debate. That’s why these guys are so annoying. I would simply like it if people stopped pretending that belief in gods was debatable. Sure, there are some very nice believers. There are some smart ones too. Bottom line though, god, as they conceive it/him doesn’t exist. Belief and disbelief in gods are not two equally valid alternative world views. Sorry to have to break it to some of you. I cannot for the life of me understand why we should respect a belief that is literally as outrageous as the tooth fairy. Because you want him to respect your lack of belief. Is that not the point of this thread? To get the guy to stop proselytizing? How do you expect to do that when you are only confirming his belief that you aren’t a good person and thus need to be saved? It’s one thread about a topic you don’t like. If it were any other subject, you’d just ignore it. Even if it was something was completely stupid. You might go in and say it was stupid, but it wouldn’t inspire a pit thread. Leave him alone, and he’d leave you alone. It’s really that simple. Stop pretending it’s something it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/69 "2013-08-22T01:00:58Z")
> [@simster](#): > > That just took a turn - Yeah, he got a little heated there. Maybe he needs to step back from the keyboard and relax for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/70 "2013-08-22T01:06:37Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > There is no fucking god. Cite?😃 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/71 "2013-08-22T01:23:50Z")
I’m done venting. Sorry if I over-reacted. I just figured out what set me off, and Timo was simply the trigger. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/72 "2013-08-22T01:58:02Z")
It’s like this, friends. God is dead. Here’s the proof… God is love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind. Therefore, Brother Ray is God But Brother Ray died, So God is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/73 "2013-08-22T04:23:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I like how his kind come here and think that the Chick Tract approach will actually work. “Golly, this Jesus guy died for _my_ sins? Why didn’t anybody ever tell me about him before??” Jokes are always funnier [the second time you tell them.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16591752&postcount=152) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/74 "2013-08-22T05:04:00Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > [Captain America] I got that! I got that reference! Me, too. I even know the pastiche form “O’Brien to Ryan to Goldberg”. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/75 "2013-08-22T12:25:32Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > That’s who I was thinking of. The poster (well, he never actually posted - the _new member_) was named “USAMA”. > > The [utterly classic OP](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5742495&postcount=1). I seem to remember a different pre-post pitting. Someone registered with a name similar or parodying a current member, and the current member did a preemptive pitting…anybody? ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/76 "2013-08-22T13:33:24Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > There’s really not room for debate. That’s why these guys are so annoying. I would simply like it if people stopped pretending that belief in gods was debatable. Sure, there are some very nice believers. There are some smart ones too. Bottom line though, god, as they conceive it/him doesn’t exist. Belief and disbelief in gods are not two equally valid alternative world views. Sorry to have to break it to some of you. I cannot for the life of me understand why we should respect a belief that is literally as outrageous as the tooth fairy. Oh it’s so cute. Somebody discovered Atheism. Look at him run about with his flag a-waving, and his trumpet blowing. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/77 "2013-08-22T13:35:26Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > I seem to remember a different pre-post pitting. Someone registered with a name similar or parodying a current member, and the current member did a preemptive pitting…anybody? There was someone with a name similar to Polycarp, but he did post, I seem to remember. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/78 "2013-08-22T13:51:39Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > There was someone with a name similar to Polycarp, but he did post, I seem to remember. **Oligocarp**? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/79 "2013-08-22T13:54:34Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Oh it’s so cute. Somebody discovered Atheism. Look at him run about with his flag a-waving, and his trumpet blowing. I’ve been an atheist for 50 years. It’s my intolerance for ignorance that’s new. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775/80 "2013-08-22T14:00:51Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > It’s like this, friends. God is dead. Here’s the proof… > > God is love. > Love is blind. > Ray Charles is blind. > Therefore, Brother Ray is God > But Brother Ray died, > So God is dead. Fallacy of the converse between steps one, two, three, and four. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-our-new-friend-timo/666775.md?page=5)