# For Sam Stone: What about Canadian politics? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 7, 2004, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746 "2004-08-07T06:47:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/61 "2023-06-22T18:44:39Z")
Airbus. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/62 "2023-06-25T19:33:37Z")
In a supreme bit of… well, not irony, I guess, but “it figures,” David Johnston was the man who did everything he could to get Brian Mulroney off the hook for the Airbus thing. Mulroney is a liar and a criminal, but the bigwigs all stick together. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/63 "2023-06-25T19:57:58Z")
[![](https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tgam/NJBLRUTQC5A5PPIBTNJO362H7Y.jpg) ](https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tgam/NJBLRUTQC5A5PPIBTNJO362H7Y.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/64 "2023-06-25T20:03:28Z")
It took me awhile to get past the fact that looks more like Jay Leno than Brian Mulroney. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/65 "2023-06-25T20:13:17Z")
You think so? Gable must have had a lot of practice. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/66 "2023-06-25T22:16:08Z")
Or Bill Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/67 "2023-06-25T22:23:18Z")
Maybe you need a certain look to get ahead in politics. There was a time when that was a different thing from show business. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/68 "2023-06-25T22:30:12Z")
Brian Mulroney, the man who did more for the Liberal cause then 99% of Grit PMs. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/69 "2023-06-25T23:12:22Z")
Free Trade was the right call. Praising Trudeau was probably about fishing for a Senate seat or other quango, unless he greatly disagrees with Harper/PP. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/70 "2023-06-26T01:06:05Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Praising Trudeau was probably about fishing for a Senate seat I may be misunderstanding your comment, but are you suggesting that Mulroney is trying to get a Senate seat by buttering up Justin? The man is 84 years old. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/71 "2023-06-26T04:38:25Z")
I don’t know why Mulroney was so effusive. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/72 "2023-06-26T09:25:34Z")
I think the PC Party of Mulroney’s era is much closer to the policies of Trudeau the Younger than any of the other federal parties. I see nothing surprising in his endorsement. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/73 "2023-06-26T12:46:52Z")
Perhaps Mulroney sees Free Trade has his legacy. Protecting that was the best thing Trudeau has done. He did okay with Covid. He has underperformed in some areas. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/74 "2023-06-26T20:43:24Z")
Mulroney was always a moderate, establishment PC. The establishment has coalesced around Trudeau. Bay Street financiers and their ilk love the new industrial policies, stimulus, etc. It’s money in their pockets. Mulroney is simply representing the Zeitgeist among the Canadian ‘elite’. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/75 "2023-07-20T20:13:45Z")
> [@FinsToTheLeft](#): > > I may be misunderstanding your comment, but are you suggesting that Mulroney is trying to get a Senate seat by buttering up Justin? The man is 84 years old. And the mandatory retirement age for senators is 75. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/76 "2023-07-20T20:27:01Z")
I’m not sure I knew that. I think I did but forgot it. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/77 "2023-07-20T20:28:16Z")
> [@Kropotkin](#): > > the mandatory retirement age for senators is 75. So he can still serve for -9 years! ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/78 "2023-07-20T20:29:04Z")
Sorry, was reply to an old post without realizing it. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/79 "2023-07-20T20:34:34Z")
If he did become a Senator, it might take the Senate three years to get around to setting up an exploratory committee to travel across the country and discuss these issues with ordinary Canadians in every province seeking a wide variety of views… ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sam-stone-what-about-canadian-politics/258746/80 "2023-07-20T20:56:07Z")
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