# For Sue in El Paso

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 9, 1999, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730 "1999-11-09T17:40:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nickrz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbce88/32.png) [@Nickrz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nickrz)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/1 "1999-11-09T17:40:00Z")

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I want to apologize to you for my remarks in the thread of same name several weeks ago. Rather than indulge myself in an orgy of self-recrimination and flagellation, I’ll just say I should have done it right then; my comments were ham-handed and inconsiderate.

I also apologize to the other members who were offended by my childish intransigence in refusing to issue this missive. I’m sorry for the continued turmoil my actions have caused.

## The responsibility for this brouhaha lands squarely and solely on me. Nickrz

As private citizen and SDMB GQ Mod

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/2 "1999-11-09T17:54:00Z")

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Good job, Nickrz:

A man should never be ashamed to own he has been in the wrong, which is but saying, in other words, that he is wiser today than he was yesterday. -Alexander Pope.

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**Author:** ![metroshane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@metroshane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/metroshane)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/3 "1999-11-09T17:59:00Z")

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Where’s my thesaurus?

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The only way to rid yourself of temptation is to yield to it–Oscar Wilde

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/4 "1999-11-10T06:44:00Z")

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::reaching out to offer to shake hands::

Apology accepted as far as I am concerned.

Well done, Nickrz.

-Melin

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**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/5 "1999-11-09T21:58:00Z")

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I don’t recall him saying he was sorry to you, Melin.

You can be happy he appologized to the person he did, but you cannot accept a damn thing. Unless you’re Sue’s spokesperson or something…

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Yer pal,  
Satan

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**Author:** ![PUNdit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@PUNdit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PUNdit)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/6 "1999-11-09T22:05:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I also apologize to the other members who were offended by my childish intransigence  
> in refusing to issue this missive. I’m sorry for the continued turmoil my actions have  
> caused.

I can certainly see where Melin could see this as applying to her. She was the one that pushed hardest for an apology.

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**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/7 "1999-11-10T02:37:00Z")

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Fair enough…

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Yer pal,  
Satan

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**Author:** ![jazzmine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jazzmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jazzmine)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/8 "1999-11-10T03:51:00Z")

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Dammit Nick…does this mean you’re not going to be mean anymore? _sigh_

trisha

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/9 "1999-11-10T04:17:00Z")

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Thank-you, Nickrz. Your gracious apology is accepted. Thank-you, too, for including people who got caught in the cross-fire.

I would like to apologize to “the moderators”. In some of my recent posts, I have painted all moderators with one brush (and tar & feathers too). That was wrong.

Nickrz made **a** mistake. That, I hope, is behind us all. Although I disagree with some views expressed by some moderators, I have no bad feelings towards any moderator. They do a good job overall, and I do appreciate the fact that the board is free from spam, as well as the knowledge that extreme & unrepetant jerks can’t ruin this experience for everyone.

I should have made it clearer that the bulk of my criticism was not directed at “the moderators”, but at Ed. I’m not sure yet if he gets it, but his post today did say he welcomed comments but that defining the roles of administrators & moderators was not open to debate. That’s certainly fair enough. I’ve sniped enough, and will be happy to watch & wait.

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Sue from El Paso  
[members.aol.com/majormd/index.html](http://members.aol.com/majormd/index.html)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/10 "1999-11-10T15:48:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Fair enough…

So glad to have passed your test for approval.

-Melin

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/11 "1999-11-10T21:32:00Z")

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I want an apology too!! I read every damn one of these ridiculous threads, a moth drawn inexorably to the fire, unable to turn (or look) away. Damn it! To think of the hours I wasted with these whines and witicisms. Throw me in a dark hole with the highway runnerneckers and the soap opera addicts. I have lost all sense of proportion and propriety and I demand that I apologize immediately!

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/12 "1999-11-10T21:33:00Z")

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Sorry for the above. Don’t know what got into me.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/13 "1999-11-10T21:34:00Z")

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Accepted. Can I all be friends now?  
🙂

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- 

The best lack all conviction  
The worst are full of passionate intensity.  
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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 1999, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/14 "1999-11-10T21:46:00Z")

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Spiritus said:

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> I want an apology too!! I read every damn one of these ridiculous threads, a moth drawn inexorably to the fire, unable to turn (or look) away.

I’m sorry you weren’t smart enough to stop reading those threads.  
😉 😉 😉 (Oooh, a triple-winker.)

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 1999, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/15 "1999-11-11T05:33:00Z")

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Kudos to all concerned. Being civilized rocks!

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**Author:** ![Nickrz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbce88/32.png) [@Nickrz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nickrz)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/16 "1999-11-12T19:11:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Being civilized rocks!

My sediments exactly…

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**Author:** ![PUNdit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@PUNdit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PUNdit)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/17 "1999-11-12T21:54:00Z")

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A moderator making a pun? You have to lava that. Obsidian at the puter laughing my butt off.  
PUN  
Was Nickrz stoned when he posted this?

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/18 "1999-11-12T22:26:00Z")

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To find civilized rocks, you’d have to check out Star Trek, the Horta episode IIRC. 🙂

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/19 "1999-11-12T23:10:00Z")

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I think we Horta stone you for that one, Poly. (Would that cement our friendship?)

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 1999, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-sue-in-el-paso/4730/20 "1999-11-13T00:41:00Z")

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These puns are way to quarrysome to write down on my slate.

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