# For those of you still harboring the illusion that Fox News is "fair and balanced".... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089 "2011-05-25T00:07:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/41 "2011-05-26T11:20:53Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Anyway, here’s a bit from that bastion of journalism and truthiness, [Foxnation.com](http://Foxnation.com). > > [Soros-Funded Lefty Media Reach More Than 300 Million Every Month:](http://nation.foxnews.com/george-soros/2011/05/25/soros-funded-lefty-media-reach-more-300-million-every-month) The Comments are frightening. > [@](#): > > "I think it’s about time Soros had his “end of life counseling” > [@](#): > > 308 in the eyeball!! > [@](#): > > EVIL loves EVIL, and George Soros is the closest thing to the devil I’ve ever seen. > [@](#): > > Who say’s money can’t buy everything? Soreass is financing his ideological road too the New World Order. He has already purchased the Media, Control of the governing body & puppet strings of Americas presidency, ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/42 "2011-05-26T12:09:21Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > No, I do not accept that comparison. I’m shocked. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/43 "2011-05-26T12:37:11Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > I’m shocked. Post back here when Ailes contritely resigns over a private comment O’Reilly makes. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/44 "2011-05-26T13:16:36Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > I’m shocked. I’m guessing that happens a lot, given the tenor of your arguments. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/45 "2011-05-26T13:42:44Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > The Comments are frightening. Wow, those people really are dumber than shit. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/46 "2011-05-26T13:46:50Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Back in March, the head of NPR, Vivian Schiller, was forced out after an NPR executive, Ron Schiller (no relation), was taped slamming tea partiers to potential large contributors to NPR, who turned out to be plants. I don’t know about you, but I put way more stock in the journalistic integrity of NPR and found the news about these dismissals very unsettling. > > NPR’s statement following the resignations: > > “NPR is fair and open minded about the people we cover.” > > Sound familiar? Apparently they’re under the same delusions that FoxNews folks are. Oh, fuck me, even [Glenn Beck denounced the producers of that video as being full of shit](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51317.html). And you know what? NPR still took steps to correct what it perceived as bias, going so far as to fire the guy, as well as its top exec. I don’t see anyone keeping Ailes in check while he’s courting Republicans to run for president or otherwise trying to peddle his agenda. ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/47 "2011-05-26T13:50:58Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Oh, fuck me, even [Glenn Beck denounced the producers of that video as being full of shit](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51317.html). > > And you know what? NPR still took steps to correct what it perceived as bias, going so far as to fire the guy, as well as its top exec. I don’t see anyone keeping Ailes in check while he’s courting Republicans to run for president or otherwise trying to peddle his agenda. I think this is the point, news organisation howver much they try can never be 100% bias-free, but Fox isn’t even trying. NPR has an acceptable level of jorunalistic integrity, Fox doesn’t. That’s okay though as journalistic integrity doesn’t matter mcuh when you’re related to yourself in several illegal ways as your typical Fox News-viewer is. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/48 "2011-05-26T15:32:57Z")
If Ernst Stavro Soros is bankrolling NPR so lavishly, what’s up with all the pledge drives? ---
**Author:** ![blueskiesfrompain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@blueskiesfrompain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blueskiesfrompain)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/49 "2011-05-26T15:45:10Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > **To be fair** , the tea party is _fucking insane_, and there’s not much liberals _can_ do other than bash the shit out of them. I was wondering what Fair and Balanced would actually look like. Thanks. _bold=me_ ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/50 "2011-05-26T16:00:40Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If Ernst Stavro Soros is bankrolling NPR so lavishly, what’s up with all the pledge drives? The money for hash brownies doesn’t just grow on trees you know. Plus there’s all the cash needed for the re-education camps. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/51 "2011-05-26T16:35:11Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The money for hash brownies doesn’t just grow on trees you know. Plus there’s all the cash needed for the re-education camps. And abortions. I think it’s mainly used on abortions. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/52 "2011-05-26T16:35:16Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If Ernst Stavro Soros is bankrolling NPR so lavishly, what’s up with all the pledge drives? Maybe he’s not funding them all that lavishly. Volcano lairs and diamond cat collars don’t come cheap after all. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/53 "2011-05-26T16:38:27Z")
When we get to Hell, there will only be Fox News and NPR. And it will always be Pledge Week. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/54 "2011-05-26T16:55:07Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Post back here when Ailes contritely resigns over a private comment O’Reilly makes. When Fox News uses taxpayer money to run its operations, report back. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/55 "2011-05-26T17:05:15Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > When Fox News uses taxpayer money to run its operations, report back. Logic fail. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/56 "2011-05-26T17:08:57Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > When Fox News uses taxpayer money to run its operations, report back. The issue you’re trying to hijack is whether or not NPR can be objective compared to other media. They are, to a fault, otherwise their coverage would not pussyfoot around the fact that teabaggers are reactionary dumbasses, rather than presenting coverage of them that makes them look like dumbasses naturally, without any commentator needing to make sly comments in order to do so. There simply is no mainstream liberal counterpoint to the unabashed right-wing slant Fox puts on its whole coverage. Fox is much more mainstream than, for instance, Pacifica radio, which I find is the exact counterpoint to Fox in _content_. When Pacifica radio is as ubiquitous and influential as Fox, then I’ll treat them the same as Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/57 "2011-05-26T17:15:56Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > When Fox News uses taxpayer money to run its operations, report back. NPR’s public funding is greatly overstated, but even so, when you catch NPR slanting its news coverage, distorting facts, overtly supporting political candidates or organizing, hyping and staging political rallies, report back. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/58 "2011-05-26T17:18:22Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Logic fail. No, it isn’t. A privately owned company can do whatever it wants. A taxpayer funded news organization cannot. Like the BBC, NPR has a higher threshold for integrity. I don’t watch Fox News. I listen to NPR on a daily basis. The fact that an executive was cast in such an unfavorable, biased light disturbs me in a way that the clowns at Fox News cannot. I expected more out of them. Yes, Fox News is biased. It is a very thinly veiled news medium for the right wing. And everybody knows it, no matter how many “Fair and balanced” slogans they try to pass off. NPR is supposed to actually be fair and balanced. It is obvious from this scandal that their high ranking executives are more concerned with politics than truth seeking. Pity. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/59 "2011-05-26T17:22:03Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > NPR is supposed to actually be fair and balanced. It is obvious from this scandal that their high ranking executives are more concerned with politics than truth seeking. Pity. One quote proves all that? Yeah, I agree with DVL. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/60 "2011-05-26T17:24:28Z")
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