# For those of you still harboring the illusion that Fox News is "fair and balanced".... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089 "2011-05-25T00:07:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/61 "2011-05-26T17:34:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > NPR’s public funding is greatly overstated, but even so, when you catch NPR slanting its news coverage, distorting facts, overtly supporting political candidates or organizing, hyping and staging political rallies, report back. They don’t live in a vacuum. OF COURSE they have a political bias. It’s just much more subtle than Fox News. The most glaring example I’ve ever personally witnessed of NPR’s liberal media bias was Terri Gross’ interview of Lynne Cheney. I love Terri Gross but it was obvious from the get-go that she had an axe to grind with Cheney. I was shocked at Gross’ lack of professionalism. She invited Cheney on to her show to purportedly discuss Cheney’s book on American history, and ended up grilling her over her husband’s politics. I invite you to listen to it at “Fresh Air” if you don’t believe it’s possible for a journalist/host to be as overtly slanted as the Sean Hannity’s of the world. [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4492285](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4492285) That being said, Diane Rheem does a stand-out job of being as close to a perfect unbiased host as they come. She can be inquisitive without being offensive, and doesn’t let either side get away with sloppy arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/62 "2011-05-26T17:53:01Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > The most glaring example I’ve ever personally witnessed of NPR’s liberal media bias was Terri Gross’ interview of Lynne Cheney. I love Terri Gross but it was obvious from the get-go that she had an axe to grind with Cheney. Oh, so she was mean to Lynne, and asked her hard questions. Did Gross tell glaring and obvious lies about Lynne Cheney? No? Did Gross work closely with a particular party on a political campaign, and then try to get “her” person elected by using the power of her media position? No? Then the comparison fails. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/63 "2011-05-26T18:22:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The money for hash brownies doesn’t just grow on trees you know. Plus there’s all the cash needed for the re-education camps. > [@Jas09](#): > > And abortions. I think it’s mainly used on abortions. That’s over 90% of what NPR does. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/64 "2011-05-26T18:39:38Z")
[quote=“Clothahump, post:7, topic:583089”] > [@joebuck20](#): > > Can you imagine the reaction from the right if, say, the president of CNN or NBC News were discovered to be lobbying some Democrat to run for high office, or if they were encouraging some Democratic governor to increase funding for Planned Parenthood or fight for union bargaining rights. QUOTE] > > Why would that be any different from what we’ve been complaining about for years? NBC/MSNBC/CBS/ABC continually sing the praises of Obama as being the best thing for this country since sliced bread. Just as one example, remember this little exchange between Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough? > > The liberal media does this sort of stuff daily. It would be business as usual, nothing more. You mean the liberal media that’s owned by gigantic companies that are run by CEOs who firmly subscribe to the Republican way of doing business? THAT liberal media? Or is there some other non-network news media you’re talking about? I mean, as long as we’re talking apple/apples and not printed media. I can see where MSNBC falls into somewhat of the same mold as FOX, except that they actually make sense when they talk. PBS, unlike other news broadcasts, actually takes the time to do in-depth reporting and interviews, which I’m sure, in your mind, makes them liberals of the worst kind. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/65 "2011-05-26T19:31:23Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > That’s over 90% of what NPR does. - \*Not intended to be a factual statement. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/66 "2011-05-26T19:54:30Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > They don’t live in a vacuum. OF COURSE they have a political bias. It’s just much more subtle than Fox News. Yes, much more subtle…Some would say almost invisible… But trusty Fox news informs us that it’s there, and gosh darn it, who are you going to believe? A news organization who is ‘subtle’ about their bias or one that we all openly admit is clearly bias? I’m going with the clearly bias one. After all, they have to tell the truth, right? ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/67 "2011-05-26T20:05:51Z")
In other headlines, the SDMB still cannot live without its FOX fix. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/68 "2011-05-26T20:26:05Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > In other headlines, the SDMB still cannot live without its FOX fix. Hey, I’m only exposed to it when the TVs in the snack lobby have it turned on, but don’t let that stop you from your generalizations. Fox AND Pacifica will almost immediately ping my “LOL WUT” meter. CNN and NPR will rarely do so when they are covering actual news\* (then again I don’t watch CNN too much.) MSNBC will sometimes provide a jarring contrast to more objective media (enough that I have to take a step back and explain the outrageousness of the segment on the network rather than have any confidence that the ludicrous situation is indeed as described), but not as much as the first two networks. \*As opposed to pop culture. NPR will cover both popular and obscure arts with the same detached reverence which is not always warranted, while CNN makes no bones about plastering half the links on its website to fluff pieces about some popular arts figure, crowding out more newsworthy stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/69 "2011-05-26T20:40:07Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > In other headlines, the SDMB still cannot live without its FOX fix. To paraphrase something Willie Sutton might have said,“Because that’s where the ignorance is.” ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/70 "2011-05-26T20:44:21Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > In other headlines, the SDMB still cannot live without its FOX fix. That’s because the fucks at FOX ‘fix’ facts. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/71 "2011-05-26T21:09:05Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > That’s because the fucks at FOX ‘fix’ facts. New facts! True facts! Whose facts? Fox facts! Who fixes Fox’s facts? Fucks at Fox fix Fox’s facts! Who choose too loose facts? Fox fucks chose to lose facts! Whose muse spews whose news? Fox fucks’ ruse skews yahoo’s views! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/72 "2011-05-26T22:24:06Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > No, it isn’t. A privately owned company can do whatever it wants. A taxpayer funded news organization cannot. Like the BBC, NPR has a higher threshold for integrity. I don’t watch Fox News. I listen to NPR on a daily basis. The fact that an executive was cast in such an unfavorable, biased light disturbs me in a way that the clowns at Fox News cannot. I expected more out of them. > > Yes, Fox News is biased. It is a very thinly veiled news medium for the right wing. And everybody knows it, no matter how many “Fair and balanced” slogans they try to pass off. NPR is supposed to actually be fair and balanced. It is obvious from this scandal that their high ranking executives are more concerned with politics than truth seeking. Pity. The treason they have so many fund drives on public radio and Tv is because they are VIEWER funded. They huge bulk of their finances comes from viewers. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/73 "2011-05-26T22:34:19Z")
My Fox fix? Like, what if we were suddenly deprived of Fox News? I suppose that might depend on circumstances. Like, if they immediatly shut down all operations because of Glenn Beck’s conviction on charges of rape and murder ( ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/74 "2011-05-26T22:39:13Z")
In 2010 NPR was funded over 50 percent from programming fees. The rest came from grants, contributions and sponsorship fees. A total of 2 percent was from grants by the Depts. of Education and Commerce. Please point out the taxpayer funding for me PUNDIT LISA. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089/75 "2011-05-26T22:43:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > My Fox fix? Like, what if we were suddenly deprived of Fox News? I suppose that might depend on circumstances. Like, if they immediatly shut down all operations because of Glenn Beck’s conviction on charges of rape and murder ( Well, shit. Gremlins. NM. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-of-you-still-harboring-the-illusion-that-fox-news-is-fair-and-balanced/583089.md?page=3)