# For those who think Moore is pocketing all the profits **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 5, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583 "2004-07-05T02:49:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/1 "2004-07-05T02:49:07Z")
> [@](#): > > The real winner: a charity, or charities, as yet unnamed, that will receive about 60 percent of the net profit ultimately generated by the film – a tally that could be tens of millions of dollars. The Weinsteins, meanwhile, will pocket about 40 percent of the net, according to people familiar with the deal. [http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/business/index.ssf?/newsflash/get\_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory\_ssf.cgi?f0040\_BC\_WSJ--Fahrenheit9/11&&news&newsflash-financial](http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/business/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?f0040_BC_WSJ--Fahrenheit9/11&&news&newsflash-financial) Looks to me like he is just making a salary. Bash on those who think he’s only in it for the money. ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/2 "2004-07-05T02:58:28Z")
For fuck’s sake, Reeder, we need another fucking Moore thread like we need fucking holes in the head. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/3 "2004-07-05T03:01:28Z")
> [@lambchops](#): > > For fuck’s sake, Reeder, we need another fucking Moore thread like we need fucking holes in the head. Did you know this? If not, you learned something. Fighting ignorance and all that you know. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/4 "2004-07-05T03:02:07Z")
Besides, what would be wrong with him pocketing the profits? He produced the film. It’s due to his skill, reputation and smarts that it’s making a bundle of money. He deserves to be rewarded for it. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/5 "2004-07-05T03:04:22Z")
You didn’t read the whole thing, did you? > [@](#): > > One wild card is how much Mr. Moore himself will make via his own profit participation in the movie, which people close to the matter describe as generous. **That amount will be deducted from the take before the Weinsteins and the charities divvy up the rest**. Mr. Moore’s Los Angeles agent, Ari Emanuel, declined to discuss Mr. Moore’s compensation but indicated it would be less than what the charities receive. So, contrary to your statements, Moore gets his cut _first_, then the charities and the Weinsteins split the rest 60/40. Hardly “just a salary”, eh? Bolding mine. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/6 "2004-07-05T03:10:46Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > You didn’t read the whole thing, did you? > So, contrary to your statements, Moore gets his cut _first_, then the charities and the Weinsteins split the rest 60/40. Hardly “just a salary”, eh? > > Bolding mine. You left out this part… > [@](#): > > Ari Emanuel, declined to discuss Mr. Moore’s compensation but indicated it would be less than what the charities receive. I never said he wasn’t getting paid. Just that he wasn’t getting all of it. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/7 "2004-07-05T03:17:27Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > You left out this part… > > I never said he wasn’t getting paid. Just that he wasn’t getting all of it. No, that was part of my quote. In any case, I wouldn’t expect Mr. Moore’s agent (or any agent, for that matter) to be above lying to protect his client’s image. My point is, this proves nothing. Maybe he’s not taking all the profits, but that sure doesn’t mean he’s not in if for the money–or even _only_ for the money; clearly he stands to make a considerable amount for this film, wouldn’t you agree? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/8 "2004-07-05T03:23:24Z")
> [@](#): > > You left out this part… What? No he didn’t! Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/9 "2004-07-05T03:25:54Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > I never said he wasn’t getting paid. Just that he wasn’t getting all of it. And that’s not what you said, either: you said it looked to you like he was just getting a salary. Which was, according to your own cite, completely incorrect. Jesus, man, can you try for a little more rigor in your posts? Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/10 "2004-07-05T03:27:50Z")
**Reeder** , why don’t you just go back to The Twilight Zone marathon. You’ve missed _To Serve Man_; it’s just ending. Your reading comprehension is abysmal this evening - not only of your link, but also of the replies to your OP. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/11 "2004-07-05T06:08:51Z")
Dear Mods, Please stop closing down this idiot’s self-destructive ramblings. They’ve become one of my greatest daily joys to read. Sincerely, Bill ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/12 "2004-07-05T06:54:37Z")
Actually, I’m chuckling over the irony of this deal, which **Reeder** (and everyone else) seems to have overlooked – the charities that will benefit from the **Fahrenheit 9/11** donations will be ones selected by the _Walt Disney Corporation._ It’d be ironic as hell if Disney turned around and tossed all that money into the coffers of “Move America Forward,” that conservative PAC that was trying to block **F911** from being shown in the first place… ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/13 "2004-07-05T12:44:53Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > It’d be ironic as hell if Disney turned around and tossed all that money into the coffers of “Move America Forward,” that conservative PAC that was trying to block **F911** from being shown in the first place… Heh–they might do that if ticket sales start to flag. Maybe they can’t directly spend that money on movie advertising, but this would be the next best thing. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/14 "2004-07-05T18:51:14Z")
“For those who think Moore is pocketing all the profits” Has anyone claimed (here or anywhere in print) that Moore is “pocketing all the profits”, or did **Reeder** just invent some boogeyman to justify yet another Moore related thread? Of course we all know the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/15 "2004-07-05T20:43:45Z")
As a democrat who actually went to see the film, I say that I couldn’t care less about what Moore does with _his_ money. It’s his money. It ain’t any of my business. I don’t care how Ann Coulter spends her earnings either. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/16 "2004-07-05T23:04:01Z")
It never even occurred to me that Moore was pocketing the profits. I did wonder, though, if he’d been _eating_ them. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/17 "2004-07-05T23:15:14Z")
> [@beagledave](#): > > “For those who think Moore is pocketing all the profits” > Has anyone claimed (here or anywhere in print) that Moore is “pocketing all the profits”, or did **Reeder** just invent some boogeyman to justify yet another Moore related thread? > > Of course we all know the answer. Well, I assumed he was. Isn’t that the default scenario, that a person gets the profits from his or her film? ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/18 "2004-07-05T23:22:10Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Well, I assumed he was. Isn’t that the default scenario, that a person gets the profits from his or her film? the key word being “all”. There are lots of scenarios (involving investors, for example) where a film maker does not get **all** of the profits from a film. When you add that to “Bash on those who think he’s only in it for the money.” from the OP…you end up with a straw man. Who (on the boards or elsewhere) is making the claim that Moore is (a) getting ALL of the profits from F911 and (b) is ONLY in it for the money (as opposed to say…oh I dunno…getting Bush out of office). If no one is making those claims than Reeder just built himself a cute little strawman. Again. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/19 "2004-07-05T23:23:33Z")
Let’s not forget all the hard working bureaucrats and politicians who will rake off their fair share. From the top. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/20 "2004-07-05T23:25:30Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > As a democrat who actually went to see the film, I say that I couldn’t care less about what Moore does with _his_ money. It’s his money. It ain’t any of my business. > > I don’t care how Ann Coulter spends her earnings either. Interesting. As a democrat, why do you care so much about spending MY money then, like Hillary wanting to “take things away from me for the common good”. My money is my money, same as MM’s. You’re right, it ain’t any of your business. So keep your’re filthy, grubby, evil paws off of it, thank you very much. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583.md?page=2)