# For those who think Moore is pocketing all the profits

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 5, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583 "2004-07-05T02:49:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/61 "2004-07-21T05:32:33Z")

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Michael Moore . . . box office gross versus net . . . the French . . . WWII . . . brain _hurts!_ Ow. Ow!

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**Author:** ![Andros\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Andros\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andros_X)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/62 "2004-07-21T14:11:07Z")

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It doesn’t take much, does it? Now people are upset at Michael Moore for _gasp_ **making money!** Kill us all now, the terrorists have won!

Seriously, why is everyone getting their panties in a bunch over this? Films are made for profit, ergo Moore gets cash for making it. And he’s giving part of it to charity, which is admirable. And yet people still complain, saying, “But…but…but he’s making more money than they are!” Of course he is. And he’s entitled; it was, after all, his movie.

I think the problem is that conservatives can’t stand that Michael Moore has made something that’s a success. I don’t think it’s about lies (if you feel differently, gimme a cite; _59 Deceits_ doesn’t count, though). He’s a popular liberal, which is a threat to the nicely-honed populist image the right has tried to cultivate, so they tear him to shreads at every opportunity.

Anyway, stop beating up on Moore. He hasn’t done anything wrong here.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/63 "2004-07-21T22:03:12Z")

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> [@Andros\_X](#):
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> Now people are upset at Michael Moore for _gasp_ **making money!**

You forgot the punch line – it’s _Republicans_ who are upset at Moore for **making money!**

I almost wonder if the next tax cut from Bush will include a clause that exempts non-Republicans from participating.

> [@Andros\_X](#):
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> Anyway, stop beating up on Moore. He hasn’t done anything wrong here.

Well, he’s shown the Bush Administration to be a pack of lying weasels, and he’s shown the Democrats to be a bunch of spineless wimps, and he’s shown the media to be sleeping at their post… but other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? 😃

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**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/64 "2004-07-21T23:05:05Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Well, he’s shown the Bush Administration to be a pack of lying weasels, and he’s shown the Democrats to be a bunch of spineless wimps, and he’s shown the media to be sleeping at their post… but other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? 😃

The only part of the film that really rung true was at the end, where the ‘elite’ Republicans at their white-tie formal costume party were freely admitting that the country was divided into the ‘haves’ (them) and the ‘have nots’ (us). And this is true for both major parties. Money is the item that creates the power to have control. It helps to be born right, or to marry well, and a couple of times each century popularity can even get you there, but basically it’s us vs. them.

Most of the rest was composed of short clips, carefully selected and edited to make targets look bad; outtakes; hamming for the cameras; all skillfully woven together to create a masterpiece of CGI. Reminds me of Couching Tiger Hidden Dragon - it looks like Kung Fu Tzu can really walk on wispy strands of bamboo, but then you don’t get to see the whole film. Deception for the purpose of entertainment. And Micheal Moore even admits it.

As for those of you who are crying that people are pointing out that Michael Moore is making money: duh, look at the title of this thread, read the OP. The Mooristians (or should we call them “Moories?”) are trying to deny that MM is getting rich off this film, as if it’s some giant charity project.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Moorelings; he’s not the second coming. He’s a very clever filmmaker, a manipulator of quasi-facts and misrepresentations, with a political ax to grind, his finger tightly on the pulse of the USA and the smarts of how to put his talents to work.

We saw the movie, we helped make him rich. So what?

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**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/65 "2004-07-21T23:10:21Z")

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> [@Andros\_X](#):
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> And yet people still complain, saying, “But…but…but he’s making more money than they are!”

Where was this said, **Andros?** Or are you ‘making things up’ now, like your hero?

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/66 "2004-07-21T23:55:22Z")

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> [@Snakespirit](#):
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> Most of the rest was composed of short clips, carefully selected and edited to make targets look bad; outtakes; hamming for the cameras; all skillfully woven together to create a masterpiece of CGI.

Really? You mean that scary image of Dick Cheney was a computer-animated muppet? :wally

Consider this: for the last four years, we’ve gotten clips carefully edited and selected by the White House to make the President and his Administration look wise, truthful, and honest. All Moore’s done is shown us the other side of the coin. Or do you _really_ believe Bush was waxing deep philosophical thoughts on the nature of man between those golf clips in the movie?

(I tell ya, Martha, there’s nuthin’ dumber than an obstinate Bushie…)

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**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-those-who-think-moore-is-pocketing-all-the-profits/253583/67 "2004-07-22T00:27:47Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Really? You mean that scary image of Dick Cheney was a computer-animated muppet? :wally

Fooled you…

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