# For your delectation .... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866 "2004-11-27T13:41:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shrinking\_Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Shrinking\_Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shrinking_Violet)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/1 "2004-11-27T13:41:47Z")
Not really worthy of a Pitting, but this: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5542565&postcount=233](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5542565&postcount=233) is just too, too _delicious_ to go unremarked. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/2 "2004-11-27T14:35:57Z")
I must be missing something; I’ve been working all night, so it could just be that I’m in a current brain-freeze. **Tuba** closed **vanilla** ’s thread (wisely, IMO), and then closed the other thread about **vanilla** ’s hopefully temporary banning (mercifully). Why is that so delicious? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/3 "2004-11-27T15:25:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Not really worthy of a Pitting It’s about Administrative actions . . . it belongs in **The Pit**. **Cajun Man** for the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/4 "2004-11-27T15:29:49Z")
**Shrinking Violet** , your point is? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/5 "2004-11-27T15:29:51Z")
> [@Shrinking Violet](#): > > Not really worthy of a Pitting, but this: > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57) > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5542565&postcount=233](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5542565&postcount=233) > > is just too, too _delicious_ to go unremarked. > > :rolleyes: I don’t understand this at all. Do you hate **Tuba** or **Vanilla**? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/6 "2004-11-27T17:44:57Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > **Shrinking Violet** , your point is? As I see it, the point being offered is that **TubaDiva** closed the second thread with an admonition about attacking someone who isn’t able to reply or defend herself, after having closed **vanilla’s** thread with a heaping serving of criticism. I think **Shrinking Violet** is suggesting that there’s some hypocrisy here. ---
**Author:** ![Mayfield\_St.Cloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@Mayfield\_St.Cloud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mayfield_St.Cloud)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/7 "2004-11-27T17:53:04Z")
I think that **Shrinking Violet** is pointing out the apparent irony of **Tuba Diva** locking **vanilla’s** original thread, banning her so that she cannot respond, giving her a bit of a tongue-lashing as a parting shot (first link), and then subsequently locking the follow-up thread based upon the fact that **vanilla** is banned and cannot respond (second link). ---
**Author:** ![Mayfield\_St.Cloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@Mayfield\_St.Cloud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mayfield_St.Cloud)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/8 "2004-11-27T17:55:55Z")
Curse you, **ETF**! 😃 And what’s with the timestamp? It certainly didn’t take me 9 minutes to compose that brief post. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/9 "2004-11-27T17:57:40Z")
> [@Mayfield St. Cloud](#): > > And what’s with the timestamp? It certainly didn’t take me 9 minutes to compose that brief post. Time flies when you’re carefully and cautiously choosing your words. ---
**Author:** ![Shrinking\_Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Shrinking\_Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shrinking_Violet)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/10 "2004-11-27T18:29:45Z")
**ETF** and **Mayfield St. Cloud** have it spot-on. I put in in MPSIMS because of the (to me) humorous angle … but if it counts as a pitting, so be it. :shrug: FTR - I don’t like / dislike either **TubaDiva** or **Vanilla**. It was the sheer irony of the thing which made me chuckle. It’s the kind of thing which makes this place so entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/11 "2004-11-27T19:18:18Z")
My guess is **Shrinking Violet** thought it was rather ironic that **Tuba** had a pit thread about her because of taking a (what some/many thought to be) nasty parting shot to **vanilla** after she had suspended **vanilla** , not letting her respond. And then **Tuba** closed the second thread, saying it wasn’t fair of anyone in _that_ thread to trash **vanilla** when she couldn’t be there to defend herself. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/12 "2004-11-27T19:19:19Z")
Grar! Note to self: when opening tons of threads in separate tabs, remember to refresh them before replying. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/13 "2004-11-27T19:25:12Z")
I thought **shrinking violet** was being ironic saying that it was too delicious for it to go unremarked and then, you know, not making any remarks. Except for :rolleyes: :dubious: 😕 :rolleyes: So there. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/14 "2004-11-27T19:46:59Z")
I’m finding this whole thread rather recursively cryptic, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/15 "2004-11-27T20:17:19Z")
I don’t think you can reasonably equate a single post explaining a suspension and containing a one-line admonishment with a lengthy, ongoing thread which stopped being a discussion about the administrative decision and devolved into a debate about whether or not the absent poster is “nice” or “evil,” with all aspects of her past behaviour and real-life circumstances being dissected by various and sundry. ---
**Author:** ![Shrinking\_Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Shrinking\_Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shrinking_Violet)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/16 "2004-11-27T23:21:31Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > I don’t think you can reasonably equate a single post explaining a suspension and containing a one-line admonishment with a lengthy, ongoing thread You’re making this more complicated than it is - I was equating two related _posts_ from \*\*TubaDiva \*\* a mere two days apart, which, to say the least, do not sit well together. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2004, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/17 "2004-11-28T18:00:05Z")
They sit together fine. Post #1: “You’re being suspended for a month for your behaviour in this thread and this is why. Pull yourself together!” Post #2: “Look, we’re not going rake someone over the coals for every aspect of their past behaviour on the board _and talk about their personal life_ while she’s not here.” How do you think the first post should been presented? “Sweetie… Darling… You know you can do no wrong, but _really_, we can’t have this sort of thing, so here’s a token suspension for ya. See you in a month. Kiss kiss!” You can’t suspend someone without being critical, and if it was a bit more critical than usual, it was because previous admonishments didn’t get through. Or are you saying that **vanilla** should have been allowed to make a formal rebuttal before the suspension took effect? A non-fluffy suspension is one thing, and a five page thread that wanders off the topic of the immediate circumstances surrounding the suspension until it becomes an ongoing vivisection of a member is something else again. There’s no inconsistency there. You might as well complain that the sheriff put someone in the stocks but won’t let a mob throw cow-pies at them. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/18 "2004-11-28T18:19:08Z")
I have to agree with **Larry**. I think bannings and suspensions should be explained whenever possible, just for transparency’s sake. Obviously **TubaDiva** was pissed, but I don’t think she was taking unnecessary potshots. Wouldn’t it have been worse to just let a pile-on continue? ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2004, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/19 "2004-11-28T18:23:14Z")
**Larry** , that’s a good analogy, but I think what some people would say that **TubaDiva** locked **vanilla** in the stocks, gave her a lil’ Dirty Sanchez, then forbade everyone from throwing cow pies at her. In other words: her criticism went rather beyond what is normally doled out to bannees. ymmmmmmmmmmmv. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866/20 "2004-11-28T18:49:32Z")
It was more like, “I can’t believe you, you’re such a sneaky, manipulative little thing, luring someone here to trap them-what a shitty Christian you are!” THEN going and locking the other thread, because **vanilla** ’s not here to respond. I don’t blame her for suspending **vanilla**. But I think she could have been blunt and to the point without being outright snarky. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-your-delectation/276866.md?page=2)