# Forbes.com: Portland, ME - Most Liveable City

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbes-com-portland-me-most-liveable-city/492138>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 6, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbes-com-portland-me-most-liveable-city/492138 "2009-04-06T15:38:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbes-com-portland-me-most-liveable-city/492138/21 "2009-04-08T02:55:56Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> 1. The town I grew up in won lots of most livable/best city awards over the years, and the flood of people they brought - mostly from Rustbelt dumps like Buffalo and Pittsburgh - ruined the place. It’s a stripmall and gas station warehouse now, and a preposterously crowded one, since they never widened the roads to accomodate the quintupling of the population.

Pittsburgh is far from being a Rustbelt dump! In fact, it is itself a frequent winner of these types of “most livable city” accolades.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbes-com-portland-me-most-liveable-city/492138/22 "2009-04-08T04:09:02Z")

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> [@ataraxy22](#):
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> Pittsburgh is far from being a Rustbelt dump! In fact, it is itself a frequent winner of these types of “most livable city” accolades.

Sorry, I realize Pittsburgh has always had nice areas and has made big improvements this decade, but look at the population drops in the '80s and '90s. Those people were leaving for a reason and they were coming to towns like mine. And Pittsburgh is - objectively, if that’s possible - part of the Rustbelt.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbes-com-portland-me-most-liveable-city/492138/23 "2009-04-08T04:54:15Z")

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> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#):
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> 64,000 people is a “city” now? Candlestick Park seats more.

It’s the opposite phenomenon of people saying they come from a small town of “only 10,000” people. 😕

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