# Forbidden Forest - Unspoiled Harry Potter Mafia Discussion

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 27, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-forest-unspoiled-harry-potter-mafia-discussion/544719 "2010-06-27T22:22:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-forest-unspoiled-harry-potter-mafia-discussion/544719/80 "2010-07-11T20:46:08Z")

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This seems like scummy reasoning to me:

> [@Harry Potter Mafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-mafia/544429/397):
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> Did **Red** copy his role PM from a member of his team who’s the real Fenrir? No, because the role PM **Red** posted is for a third-party role, not a Scum. If there really is a Fenrir in this game, and he’s really a Scum, then the real role PM he got must have been substantially different from the one **Red** posted, at which point I don’t see how it matters that the name is the same.

Now, the Townies would be wise not to put too much faith in **Red Skeezix** ’s false claim, because he was definitely lying about his own role and could easily have invented the Fenrir role himself. Or maybe there is a vanilla Scum player whose character name happens to be Fenrir, in which case it really doesn’t matter that **Red Skeezix** decided to use the same name. But given the number of special roles we’ve seen already, I don’t find it implausible that there is a Scum Fenrir character who is NOT substantially different from the role described by **Red Skeezix**. I wouldn’t bet the farm on it, but I see no reason to assume that there _couldn’t_ be a Scum character with the power to perform an extra night kill.

I don’t know what **Chronos** ’s motives are for dismissing **Ninja** ’s concerns if he is Scum, though – it may be that she was on the right track and he wants to mislead the Town, or it may be that he knows perfectly well there’s no special Fenrir role and is either trying to act pro-Town by preventing the others from wasting time or that he’d just find it annoying to read and play along with a bunch of debate about a topic he knows is fruitless.

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