# Forbidden Randomness of the Unspoiled Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 20, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111 "2010-03-20T04:14:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/41 "2010-03-27T19:00:31Z")
I honestly don’t think so. I’ve seen him play scum/PFK before and really his tendency then is to be less provoking and more risk-averse. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/42 "2010-03-28T01:45:57Z")
> [@Random Mafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/662): > > unless Keely and Meeko are masons… pffft… \*\*Meeko \*\*couldn’t be a Mason because he was one in the last game and he can’t have been twice in a row! ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/43 "2010-03-28T06:12:22Z")
I don’t think \*\*special\_ed \*\*has ever really recovered from that first game \*\*Meeko \*\*was his fellow-Mason in. The off board Mason conversations in that game were nutty. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/44 "2010-03-28T07:10:50Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > I don’t think \*\*special\_ed \*\*has ever really recovered from that first game \*\*Meeko \*\*was his fellow-Mason in. The off board Mason conversations in that game were nutty. QFT. I think one of my first posts in that Mason thread was something to the effect of “Um…no, I don’t think we should be trying to kill Ed, Meeko.” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/45 "2010-03-28T10:36:32Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > QFT. I think one of my first posts in that Mason thread was something to the effect of “Um…no, I don’t think we should be trying to kill Ed, Meeko.” Now you guys have gotten me curious. Who modded that game? Do you think they still have the mason board available? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/46 "2010-03-28T10:45:36Z")
I wish I could help, but I can’t even remember what game that was or what boards it was on. Hazard of the affliction… ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/47 "2010-03-28T15:06:45Z")
It was Crimson Glyph, moderated by **pedescribe**. I was able to find my link to the Spoiler boards and the Scum boards at [http://notsogenericscum.proboards.com/index.cgi?](http://notsogenericscum.proboards.com/index.cgi?), but I don’t see the Mason boards on quick perusal. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/48 "2010-03-28T23:22:37Z")
Ped doesn’t put masons and scum on the same board. I’ve got access to another board of ped’s, but it’s not on that one either, although the Sinners are there. My guess is that ped does not let competing factions post on the same board. I’ll PM him for the other one. Since it’s about an old game, it shouldn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/49 "2010-03-29T01:22:39Z")
I read that Mason board after the game, but I’ve deleted the PM with the link. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/50 "2010-03-29T09:47:21Z")
I feel stupid. I could’ve just went back to the [original thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11224283#post11224283) and checked. It’s really not as bad as I thought. P.S. I love the VeggieTales reference (in ped’s endgame post). ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/51 "2010-03-29T16:33:49Z")
Ha! So I’m not in that game, but I was in a game as a Mason with Meeko and Ed where Meeko was wanting to kill him, and I assumed it was the one USCDiver was referencing. And I still don’t remember the name of the game I’m thinking of. ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/52 "2010-03-29T17:13:37Z")
I think you may be thinking of Mafiaville: Conspiracy 3: Third Time’s the Charm (On Idle’s board) and technically, you three were wolves, rather than masons, and Ed and Meeko drove everyone else so bonkers on day 1 that they both got Nightkilled the first night. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/53 "2010-03-29T17:25:51Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Ha! So I’m not in that game, but I was in a game as a Mason with Meeko and Ed where Meeko was wanting to kill him, and I assumed it was the one USCDiver was referencing. And I still don’t remember the name of the game I’m thinking of. I think you’re thinking of Conspiracy 3 on Idle’s board, where Ed and Meeko were both wolves, and IIRC, so were you. Meeko wanted to use the wolf kill on Ed. ETA: And I should have refreshed my browser window, or previewed since Eureka has brought it up. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/54 "2010-03-29T17:27:07Z")
Yes, that’s the one. Typical not-quite-accurate memory on my part. :smack: Happy to confuse everyone. Do come again! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/55 "2010-03-30T14:01:52Z")
another fracking Day one lynch. too bad, because this one is lining up to be interesting. this will be a first for me. spoilers, please. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/56 "2010-03-30T15:44:37Z")
Whoa. What the hell? OK, so I’m a total mafia newbie. I read through the first mafia game we had here, the Werewolves one that \*\*CttDWHC \*\*posted, and that was fun. Straightforward, I could see what was going on. (And guessed totally wrong on a couple of people, but that’s to be expected.) I haven’t read through any others yet. I read through the beginnings of this one, and I have no idea what’s going on. None at all. I certainly don’t “get” \*\*Meeko \*\*or \*\*peeker \*\*- oof. No idea what they’re saying or trying to say or trying to hide. Tell me that all the games aren’t like this. Are there specific ones I should read through to get a better feel for the game? ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/57 "2010-03-30T16:03:01Z")
Town are handing control of the lynch to the scum team again, no-one with more than 2 votes. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/58 "2010-03-30T16:42:01Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > Whoa. What the hell? > > OK, so I’m a total mafia newbie. I read through the first mafia game we had here, the Werewolves one that \*\*CttDWHC \*\*posted, and that was fun. Straightforward, I could see what was going on. (And guessed totally wrong on a couple of people, but that’s to be expected.) I haven’t read through any others yet. > > I read through the beginnings of this one, and I have no idea what’s going on. None at all. I certainly don’t “get” \*\*Meeko \*\*or \*\*peeker \*\*- oof. No idea what they’re saying or trying to say or trying to hide. > > Tell me that all the games aren’t like this. Are there specific ones I should read through to get a better feel for the game? Don’t worry about not getting Meeko or peeker, few people do. They are just quirky people. What are you not following and I will try to help explain. There are probably a lot of common assumptions taking place that you aren’t aware of since you haven’t been following the games. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/59 "2010-03-30T17:35:30Z")
KellyCriterion seems to have fallen off the wikipage. Anyone want to substitute if he doesn’t show up? ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111/60 "2010-03-30T17:42:23Z")
Thought you had a couple subs lined up when the game started Sach? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-randomness-of-the-unspoiled-mafia/533111.md?page=4)