# Forbidden Thread - Mafia: The Mob is Recruiting **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 22, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737 "2008-02-22T17:30:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/21 "2008-02-23T07:19:13Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Um, if I recall correctly, in Mafia: Sekham **zuma v2** was quite adamant about his Cult role. [/QUOTE] I was killed on night 1, so I didn’t have anything really invested in the game at that point. Anyway, this should be an interesting game to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/22 "2008-02-24T02:06:01Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] [QUOTE=USCDiver] Maybe they should divide the player list in half for each investigator 😉 . [/QUOTE] That’s an awesome idea! [/QUOTE] Heh, **One And Only Wanderers** has just made a similar suggestion! ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/23 "2008-02-24T04:19:26Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Klutz] Heh, **One And Only Wanderers** has just made a similar suggestion! [/QUOTE] Wasn’t she a participant in the Sekham game too? Doesn’t she know better?! Also… In post 179, **Diomedes** says: > [@Diomedes](#): > > Yeah, but the beat cops won’t know if there are any, either. OAOW’s method would prevent us from the possibility of ‘double-bagging’, and if we do have multiple cops, we want to get our best shot at catching out a ‘making’ tonight. Is my radar set too sensitive, or did he just hint that he was a Beat Cop? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/24 "2008-02-25T02:05:56Z")
I would read “us” as meaning “the Town”, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/25 "2008-02-25T02:24:23Z")
But then, you’ve all just seen what my reads are worth. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/26 "2008-02-25T03:29:31Z")
Hi guys and gals. I’ve gotten several PMs about an all-spoilers board, and thought it’d be easier to post here to answer. I haven’t actually gotten the Mafia board up yet, even (as I knew I’d have at least until the second Night) so, once that’s done, hopefully I can get a side forum for all spoilers for those of you who are interested. I have to admit it’ll be a lot more interesting spectating if you all know who is doing what in the background with recruitment! ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/27 "2008-02-25T18:58:20Z")
I’m left wondering if I should have asked for a spot in this game, I would have had a good chance of surviving the first night. That will probably be a novelty for \*\*NAF1138 \*\* as well. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/28 "2008-02-26T21:42:26Z")
Please do not use this if you are a current player (alive) or if you would like to stay a possible substitute! The spoiler board is now available, although not much is up yet but the info (so far) for Night One and the player list. [Click here to access the board.](http://fluiddruid.proboards50.com/index.cgi?board=recruitingsummary) PM for password. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/29 "2008-02-26T21:55:01Z")
That’s unusual. Usually the password gets sent to people by PM. Not that I think anyone in the game would stoop to such things as reading the forbidden thread and going to the spoiler board, but usually temptation is kept at bay by making it not possible. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/30 "2008-02-26T22:00:22Z")
Oh, is it? I haven’t kept up with the forbidden threads lately. Sure, PM me for a password. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/31 "2008-02-27T19:04:34Z")
So is discussion simply not happening or is it all happening on the spoiler board? ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/32 "2008-02-27T19:42:18Z")
Non-spoilered conversation will probably carry on here, Spoilered conversation will, no doubt, occur on the spoiler board. Just being obvious 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mmouse9799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mmouse9799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mmouse9799)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/33 "2008-02-27T20:43:33Z")
:: anxiously awaits her password :: ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/34 "2008-02-28T03:16:53Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] So is discussion simply not happening or is it all happening on the spoiler board? [/QUOTE] Well, there wasn’t really anything to discuss during the first Day and Night. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/35 "2008-02-28T08:19:23Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Wasn’t she a participant in the Sekham game too? Doesn’t she know better?! [/QUOTE] He, not she. What was the problem with trying to maximise beat cop spread btw? I think Pleo is looking very scummy at the moment. All the reasons he quoted for no lynch on day 1 are still there the fact you may now have 2 in 23 chance of hitting scum, rather than 1 in 24 changes the numbers very little. The potential personal pronoun slip looks dodgy too. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/36 "2008-02-28T08:42:05Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] He, not she. What was the problem with trying to maximise beat cop spread btw? I think Pleo is looking very scummy at the moment. All the reasons he quoted for no lynch on day 1 are still there the fact you may now have 2 in 23 chance of hitting scum, rather than 1 in 24 changes the numbers very little. The potential personal pronoun slip looks dodgy too. [/QUOTE] The problem with all the cop discussion in Sekham was that the apprentice knew the identity of the oracle, and wanted to be investigated by him. This led to Hal’s “yo oracle, over here” comment which helped out him, and allowed us scum to eliminate a large number of apprentice candidates based on their support or opposition to the list separation (they’d be opposed to it if it resulted in Hal not investigating “their half” of the list, and vice-versa). So I don’t think the problems in Sekham would apply here, and separating the lists seems like a good idea. If I were playing in this game I’d be reviewing Pleo’s other games and pronoun usage. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/37 "2008-02-28T14:56:24Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] If I were playing in this game I’d be reviewing Pleo’s other games and pronoun usage. [/QUOTE] There is always so much confusion with pronouns (on the SDMB in general but in particular in Mafia games) that I’d have a real hard time basing a vote on it. Although, it might make me more likely to investigate that player. > [@One and Only Wanderers](#): > > What was the problem with trying to maximise beat cop spread btw? If you think the beat cops should be directed by the crowd and NOT by doing what they individually think is best, then you might also suggest some mechanism such that they aren’t all investigating each night. You’d want to minimize the incorrect percentage they incur simply by investigating. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/38 "2008-02-28T15:00:15Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] If you think the beat cops should be directed by the crowd and NOT by doing what they individually think is best, then you might also suggest some mechanism such that they aren’t all investigating each night. You’d want to minimize the incorrect percentage they incur simply by investigating. [/QUOTE] nah, in this game their greatest utility is in revealing recruits, which they don’t have a % chance on. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/39 "2008-02-28T15:03:13Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] nah, in this game their greatest utility is in revealing recruits, which they don’t have a % chance on. [/QUOTE] Ah, I missed the nuance that the witnessing percentage was not changed based on numbers of cops. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737/40 "2008-02-28T16:02:25Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] There is always so much confusion with pronouns (on the SDMB in general but in particular in Mafia games) that I’d have a real hard time basing a vote on it. Although, it might make me more likely to investigate that player. [/QUOTE] The only confusion is the gender of specific usernames… Pleo was referring to an unknown role. There has got to be a history of how he refers to those roles in his other games. Nobody seems to be looking it up yet (I’m not playing, so I won’t bother). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-the-mob-is-recruiting/438737.md?page=3)