# Forbidden Thread: Mafia V

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 26, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509 "2007-06-26T19:02:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/201 "2007-08-09T01:26:18Z")

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I disagree. I’m all for a rushed dunking.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/202 "2007-08-09T11:59:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Kat]  
I disagree. I’m all for a rushed dunking.  
[/QUOTE]

\<Lobs water balloon at **Kat** 😃 \>

Well, the town seems to have picked up a bit and the discussion seems more intense.

I’m not buying the **Mal/PM** angle that is being proposed and I can see **Sachertorte** being set up as a Cultist fallguy in the future as his name keeps appearing in the possible scum lists.

Given that the Oracle can only see if a person is town/non-town, looking to see who **Hal B** voted for is not helpful, seeing who he suggested was town or non-town is.

I’m am now more convinced that **Queuing** is scum along with \*\*HM \*\* and **sach** , given his description of breadcrumbing, but I’m less sure of **zuma**.

Current role claims are:  
**Hockey Monkey** : Alchemist  
**Zeriel** : Monk  
**Pleonast** : Martyr

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/203 "2007-08-09T18:36:16Z")

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Current role claims are now:  
Hockey Monkey: Alchemist  
Zeriel: Monk  
Pleonast: Martyr  
Malacandra: Disciple

I see that this new revelation has finally got the town thinking faster, although I guess the deadline has something to do with it as well.

Nice to see that **DiggitCamara v.2** has had the same idea as me about the the Oracle’s breadcrumbs and a possible pointer to the Prophet.

They might actually catch a Cultist tonight, although I hope they don’t all have to roleclaim to make it happen.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/204 "2007-08-09T19:04:13Z")

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Might I just say how scummy I find it when people cast doubt on major role-claims? If **Mal** isn’t the Disciple, then the real one will role-claim and **Mal** will get dunked. No matter what, a double-claim would lead to a Cultist getting caught within a Day, so quit bellyaching about it.

SFOS\* **FlyingCowOfDoom** and **Pygmy Rugger**.

\*Skeletal Finger of Suspicion

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/205 "2007-08-10T02:19:51Z")

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I wonder if I should start using “Pom-Pom of Suspicion” in future games. 😃

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/206 "2007-08-10T04:46:02Z")

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At this rate the next sub required is going to be for **Blaster Master** 😉

aaaaaand it looks like we are rushed dunking territory again.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/207 "2007-08-10T06:43:14Z")

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[QUOTE=CatinaSuit]  
At this rate the next sub required is going to be for **Blaster Master** 😉

aaaaaand it looks like we are rushed dunking territory again.  
[/QUOTE]

😛

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/208 "2007-08-10T07:21:40Z")

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On the downside, I hate to be out of the game. On the upside, I’ve got my life back.

Links to funny stories please!

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/209 "2007-08-10T08:30:25Z")

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**amrussell** , welcome to the Forbidden thread, pull up a chair and grab some nachos.

As for you being dunked, I would say that was Scum led and they did a good job of it.

They would be able to guess who the psychopath was because they would not have expected you to be protected at night and by dunking you they free up other options for tonight, otherwise I suspect you would have been tonights victim instead.

So do they knock off \*\*Mal \*\* or **Pleonast** or go for a conversion?

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/210 "2007-08-10T08:46:00Z")

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I really wish I’d been able to log in last night. There were so many “gut” votes coming out of nowhere and I could at least have pointed that out. At least I can hope they’ve revealed themselves now…

I had started to consider I might be the Psycho, after we lost other non-believers, but I didn’t try and think of an appropriate strategy. (Basically, I didn’t think I’d be that lucky.) I suppose I should have faked being the apprentice and sought out a night-kill, but that’s probably harder to do than it sounds.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/211 "2007-08-10T10:44:18Z")

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It’s a pity the Psychopath was never activated, as having an extra night killer would have kept the Cultists on their toes. Then again, if you had been activated then the Cultists would have known your identity as soon as you made your first night kill.

I was also wondering if I was the Psychopath, although I didn’t figure out how to attract a night kill attempt. It seems to be extremely difficult for the Psychopath to win, as he/she needs to survive to the end of the game. If I was the Psychopath then I was planning to lie low for a very long time, at least until after a subsequent non killing night, and only striking when we were down to 1 or 2 Cultists. Even then I might not win, as the Psychopath also needs a non-believer win.

A Psychopath on the loose would have livened up the game a bit - **Blaster Master** , were you ever tempted to move the Psychopath role to another non-believer? (No one would have noticed, as even the budding Psychopath is not aware of his/her role)

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/212 "2007-08-10T13:29:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Klutz]  
A Psychopath on the loose would have livened up the game a bit - **Blaster Master** , were you ever tempted to move the Psychopath role to another non-believer? (No one would have noticed, as even the budding Psychopath is not aware of his/her role)  
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There was some temptation to fiddle with some of the roles, especially the unknown ones, but I thought **pasta** ’s play style, and then **amrussell** ’s, would have been a lot of fun to watch be the Psychopath. I have to say that I, too, am disappointed that the role never got activated… certainly would have spiced things up.

In fact, I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the play of most of the special roles… I’ll just leave it at that.

As for now, it looks like it’s going to be a cat and mouse game with the Apprentice… the pool of relative unknowns is shrinking fast, which means the cult really has to think twice about targetting any of them hoping to find the Apprentice… however, each Night he lives, he has the potential to add one more person to the confirmed town list.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2007, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/213 "2007-08-11T07:16:42Z")

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Is there something wrong with this town??

They have just dunked another townie, especially one who could take the fight back to the Cultists and they are wondering if this is a good or a bad thing. (Admittedly the role doesn’t like believers either, but hey, no-one’s perfect)

I would expect a recruit tonight, given that last night’s no-kill has been explained, although the pool of possible targets is getting smaller. Otherwise I would be taking out one of the three role claimed town roles to reduce the known pool.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2007, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/214 "2007-08-11T10:32:48Z")

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[QUOTE=CatinaSuit]  
I would expect a recruit tonight, **given that last night’s no-kill has been explained** …\<snip\>  
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(bolding added)  
I’m not sure what you mean - the Psychopath was _not_ activated, so we still don’t know the reason for the no-kill.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/215 "2007-08-11T17:47:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Klutz]  
(bolding added)  
I’m not sure what you mean - the Psychopath was _not_ activated, so we still don’t know the reason for the no-kill.  
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My mistake, I thought he had been activated and missed **Blaster Master** mentioning the situation in his end of day post. :smack:

It also means that the town lost yet another townie but they really don’t seem to bothered about it???

I guess we will have to wait for tonight and see what the Cultists get up to.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2007, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/216 "2007-08-12T09:24:05Z")

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You know, I think the lost of Fretful Porpentine is a big one for the town… but it might just be enough to get them out of their rut in which they’ve been pretty much since the beginning… I suppose we’ll have to wait and see, though.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2007, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/217 "2007-08-12T09:59:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
You know, I think the lost of Fretful Porpentine is a big one for the town… but it might just be enough to get them out of their rut in which they’ve been pretty much since the beginning… I suppose we’ll have to wait and see, though.  
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Well, now that should explain the last two nights, my guess is **Fretful** was blocking on either \*\*Zeriel \*\* or **Malacandra**.

Considering that \*\*USCDiver \*\* (cultist, methinks) has gone straight for **Pygmy Rugger** makes me think that the town is going to umm and aaah throughtout the day and then dunk **Pygmy Rugger**.

Congrats to the Cultists though, they have played very well so far and cannot be that far off winning the game outright.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2007, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/218 "2007-08-12T13:44:22Z")

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Oh, damn. Guess I should have listened to all the people who kept telling the Priest to self-protect, but I really didn’t think I was on their radar at all and I figured they’d go for one of the many exposed power roles.

On the bright side, now I can read this thread 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2007, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/219 "2007-08-12T14:24:08Z")

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Welcome to the party, **Fretful**. No hard feelings.

Have some nachos. 🙂

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/220 "2007-08-12T14:28:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Fretful Porpentine]  
Oh, damn. Guess I should have listened to all the people who kept telling the Priest to self-protect, but I really didn’t think I was on their radar at all and I figured they’d go for one of the many exposed power roles.

On the bright side, now I can read this thread 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

Don’t worry about it, there were several people to protect and you can’t manage them all. Pull up a chair and have some nachos.

My guess is that on the night before last, **Malacandra** protected you and the Cultists hit you on the same night. I don’t think your death would have provided too many pointers to other Cultists, which is why you were targeted. When you were not killed they reckoned they had found the **Priest** , after **Malacandra** role-claimed.

Then again, I could be completely wrong 🙂

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