# Forbidden Thread: Mafia V **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 26, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509 "2007-06-26T19:02:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/361 "2007-08-22T06:01:25Z")
Man alive…I’m actually glad that’s over, it was draining having to act that defensive. Man, Cult really kinda screwed up in this one. Just for the record (and you’ll all see this when the scum boards are open) I was hugely against claiming as Monk. I can’t say anymore here though because it goes into a lot of more specific information, although there is a TON of stuff to say about it and what happened. If anyone wants a PM with what the plans were and what my thoughts were, just tell me. Also, if you want to know any other questions, as long as it’s okay with **Blaster** , just PM me with them and I’ll answer them. If not, well, then you’ll just have to wait to the end of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/362 "2007-08-22T07:48:02Z")
[QUOTE=Zeriel] Could you clarify for those of us watching along at home–was that a modkill or was that Idle was the Avatar or both? [/QUOTE] Yes, it was a mod-kill, not the Avatar… I just did it that way to try to have some fun with it and at least try to have some semblence of a story. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/363 "2007-08-22T07:50:12Z")
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts] Man alive…I’m actually glad that’s over, it was draining having to act that defensive. Man, Cult really kinda screwed up in this one. Just for the record (and you’ll all see this when the scum boards are open) I was hugely against claiming as Monk. I can’t say anymore here though because it goes into a lot of more specific information, although there is a TON of stuff to say about it and what happened. If anyone wants a PM with what the plans were and what my thoughts were, just tell me. Also, if you want to know any other questions, as long as it’s okay with **Blaster** , just PM me with them and I’ll answer them. If not, well, then you’ll just have to wait to the end of the game. [/QUOTE] Almost a very impressive coup, I think you screwed up in a couple of minor areas that might have helped your claim. I think there was a bit of poor timing as well, but FWIW, I think you did pretty darn well with the situation you got stuck in. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/364 "2007-08-22T10:40:10Z")
So, I think the modkill was a pretty smart decision, given the direction the game seemed to be going, but it also seems to me like it pretty much puts the final nail in the town coffin - basically the advantage to the sucessful lynch is mitigated, with the problem of the actual Avatar still unsolved and recruitment toNight quite likely. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/365 "2007-08-22T12:31:37Z")
Yeah, it’s a shame, because they did well to make the right decision about the fake monks. As far as I can see, the best they can hope for is to get \*\*Hockey \*\* to block **zuma** , hope \*\*MHaye \*\* finds the Avatar and have **CatinaSuit** protect someone in the recruitable pool, hoping it’s the same person the Cult pick. Kind of a long shot, really. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/366 "2007-08-22T12:38:16Z")
The only depressing thing about the game now is how badly some people’s tempers seem to have flared up…NAF and sachertorte in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/367 "2007-08-22T12:50:41Z")
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts] Man alive…I’m actually glad that’s over, it was draining having to act that defensive. [/QUOTE] I can somewhat sympathize, **Idle Thoughts** - how do you think I felt back on Day 3, when I wasn’t acting about freaking out? I had actually had a Very Bad Thought this morning, expanding on what Blaster Master said yesterday: If you Cult had recruited the Apprentice, that would provide perfect cover for the Prophet to roleclaim as the Apprentice. On top of the conflicting Monk claims, nobody would’ve been the wiser! ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/368 "2007-08-22T12:54:44Z")
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts] Man alive…I’m actually glad that’s over, it was draining having to act that defensive. [/quote] And you’ve totally burned your townie cred with this gambit. You’ll have to find a different schtick next time. 😃 > [@](#): > > Man, Cult really kinda screwed up in this one. Just for the record (and you’ll all see this when the scum boards are open) I was hugely against claiming as Monk. I can’t say anymore here though because it goes into a lot of more specific information, although there is a TON of stuff to say about it and what happened. Well, it was definitely an interesting gambit. You got me guessing, at least. (But I’m not in this game, so that didn’t help you. :P) ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/369 "2007-08-22T13:44:16Z")
I still think it’s pretty close, especially since losing **sach** balances out the fact the townies know who **zuma** is now. I don’t think anyone’s probably got any illusions left about **NAF** anymore either. What I want to know is this: what the heck was up with **Queuing**? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/370 "2007-08-22T14:06:43Z")
[QUOTE=Zeriel] I still think it’s pretty close, especially since losing **sach** balances out the fact the townies know who **zuma** is now. I don’t think anyone’s probably got any illusions left about **NAF** anymore either. What I want to know is this: what the heck was up with **Queuing**? [/QUOTE] But losing **sachertorte** is a blow of two different kinds - it’s a loss of a townie, fine, but it’s also a loss of a player who _could not be recruited_, and thus would have been a safe haven for the rest of the game. Knowing **zuma’s** alignment isn’t going to be the problem - they’ll kill him next, and then **NAF,** most likely, if they haven’t wised to the Prophet yet. But one among the Pleonast / MHaye / Hockey Monkey troika is likely to be scum tomorrow morning, and it’s going to be very, very hard to recover from that. I also don’t know why **Pleonast** won’t share at least one aspect of his powers. It would save the town an enormous amount of needless wrangling. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/371 "2007-08-22T15:40:21Z")
[QUOTE=Blaster Master] Almost a very impressive coup, I think you screwed up in a couple of minor areas that might have helped your claim. I think there was a bit of poor timing as well, but FWIW, I think you did pretty darn well with the situation you got stuck in. [/QUOTE] After **zuma** ’s “claim” I would definitely have changed the co-host to the “monk charade” and loudly denounced **zuma** as a cultist. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/372 "2007-08-22T19:41:06Z")
Funny stories please. Throughout the game I had been giving quite a bit of thought to the recruitment option. In M3 it was very overpowered (in my opinion), but Blaster Master tempered that with tying it to the Prophet. I kind of looked at that with a critical eye too though since my perception is that the Prophet (investigates as believer) is sort of an endgame role anyway. So that got me thinking, would it make sense to have a diminishing probability of successful recruitment as the game continues. For example, 100% on Night 1, 90% on Night 2, etc. I think this type of set up balances the greater benefits of late recruitment with risk. Although I think I’d just prefer no recruitment at all. [QUOTE=Blaster Master] It’s functionally equivalent, but provides a huge amount of flexibility for role-claiming. I’m just really surprised that hasn’t come to people like Queuing or Idle or FCoD or Zuma. [/QUOTE] Oh that (non-MHaye Apprentice recruitment) occurred to me, lots of things occurred to me, but I wasn’t about to bring up information that would _hurt my case_ just yet. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/373 "2007-08-22T19:44:32Z")
[QUOTE=Blaster Master] Almost a very impressive coup, I think you screwed up in a couple of minor areas that might have helped your claim. I think there was a bit of poor timing as well, but FWIW, I think you did pretty darn well with the situation you got stuck in. [/QUOTE] Hahaha, thank you. Stuck in is right. As you know and read , I didn’t even want to do that. 😛 It made zero sense and was so unlike my persona in the game. But in the end, I guess I just gave in. Again, story for anyone who wants it in PM. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/374 "2007-08-22T19:48:36Z")
Hahaha, I’ve also learned stuff, just last Night, that is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting…Stuff not even I knew. This game is going to be wicked. Oh, and I could tell anyone who wants to know about any possible recruitment in PM if you like. ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/375 "2007-08-23T02:25:43Z")
I think you shouldn’t’a given in, **Idle**. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/376 "2007-08-23T02:28:03Z")
What do you mean? I was all of dead. 😛 Haha. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/377 "2007-08-23T02:51:53Z")
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts] Again, story for anyone who wants it in PM. [/QUOTE] I’ll take you up on that, my good man. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/378 "2007-08-24T00:58:35Z")
Oh, I certainly hope Hockey Monkey gets shot down–they need to keep Zuma alive to maximize Hockey’s blocking…unless Hockey got the big convert. ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/379 "2007-08-24T01:27:33Z")
I meant you shouldn’t’a given in on the roleclaiming idea. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/380 "2007-08-24T14:41:33Z")
[QUOTE=Zeriel] Oh, I certainly hope Hockey Monkey gets shot down–they need to keep Zuma alive to maximize Hockey’s blocking…unless Hockey got the big convert. [/QUOTE] Arrrgh. I really hope someone reads my posts from Yesterday. I pretty much was begging the town to keep the confirmed scum alive for the Alchemist while turning attention to the unknown five. That is the best course of action for the town! I even voted NAF to impress the point. Hopefully Hockey Monkey will think about who she will target at night and start advocating a non-zuma dunk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509.md?page=20)