# Forbidden Thread: Mafia V

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 26, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509 "2007-06-26T19:02:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 24

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/461 "2007-08-30T17:09:18Z")

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Okay, so here’s my thoughts… leave both FCoD and Pygmy alive, but reveal what was editted out. Since the town was probably going to kill them (along with NAF) on successive Days, I figure I can just let them work it out.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/462 "2007-08-30T17:14:53Z")

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Blaster Master - what do you intend to do about \*\*zuma \*\* being the Avatar?

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/463 "2007-08-30T17:19:24Z")

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[QUOTE=CatinaSuit]  
Blaster Master - what do you intend to do about \*\*zuma \*\* being the Avatar?  
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If I go ahead with revealing the editted post, I’ll process it immediately.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/464 "2007-08-30T17:22:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
You’re both right, FCoD didn’t do anything wrong. However, my concern is based on what happened in M3, where Idle Thoughts accidently got game breaking information and wasn’t mod-killed, and it very much affected the outcome of the game.

I think I have a better idea…  
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But Idle got game breaking information \*\*outside \*\*of the game thread. I think this is entirely different.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/465 "2007-08-30T17:23:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
If I go ahead with revealing the editted post, I’ll process it immediately.  
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That makes sense. The game is about revealing info, so if you process the Avatar as it should have been done and then reveal \*\*Pygmy Rugger’s \*\* post, it is roughly back where it should be.

Albeit, with someone looking really foolish.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/466 "2007-08-30T17:26:39Z")

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Did NAF vote for zuma? If so, then an Avatar event killing NAF would have changed who MHaye investigated.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/467 "2007-08-30T17:31:16Z")

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[QUOTE=sachertorte]  
Did NAF vote for zuma? If so, then an Avatar event killing NAF would have changed who MHaye investigated.  
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I know it looks that way… but it wouldn’t. All will be revealed shortly with the mod-kill post. 😃

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/468 "2007-08-30T17:33:56Z")

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I checked. NAF did vote for zuma.  
Part of me wants NAF to get Avatar-rrrr-ed because I’m sure he’s scum.  
Part of me wants NAF to get Avatar-rrrr-ed because I’m a bad person and find the subplot more interesting than the game at this point.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/469 "2007-08-30T17:40:21Z")

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I’m looking forward to the town reaction to all of this.

It will probably immediately lead to the dunking of **Pygmy Rugger** , but who knows what else might occur.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/470 "2007-08-30T17:41:07Z")

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Oh sure. I’m the only one to \*not \*get a substitution \*\*and \*\*I’m the only one to get mod-killed.  
Frumpy.  
just kidding

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/471 "2007-08-30T17:44:08Z")

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[QUOTE=sachertorte]  
Oh sure. I’m the only one to \*not \*get a substitution \*\*and \*\*I’m the only one to get mod-killed.  
Frumpy.  
just kidding  
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My apologies for being tardy, next time I will try to get up to speed with a game quicker so you get a sub 😛

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/472 "2007-08-30T17:45:46Z")

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Hmmm. Actually, thinking about it a bit more (before seeing the content of the post deleted) I think its sort of unfair to put the burden on the town to decide what to do about Pygmy Rugger. Basically, they have to dunk him which, if he is scum, doesn’t change the game dynamics (other than having outed himself as a scum, which he did). If he is town, then the game is essentially over.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/473 "2007-08-30T17:52:57Z")

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ZING!  
Okay, that makes more sense. But it still doesn’t rectify the issue that if NAF were to die by the avatar, that MHaye would have selected a different target at night.  
Unfortunately, this is of course an extension of the zuma-avatar issue.  
I hope \*\*Gadarene \*\*is reading this game. I think he’ll feel much better.

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**Author:** ![tirial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@tirial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tirial)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/474 "2007-08-30T17:54:35Z")

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[QUOTE=sachertorte]  
Hmmm. Actually, thinking about it a bit more (before seeing the content of the post deleted) I think its sort of unfair to put the burden on the town to decide what to do about Pygmy Rugger.  
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Having read the contents of Pygmy Rugger’s post now BM’s added it, all I can say is I suspect you will get your wish for a NAF dunking in the near future.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/475 "2007-08-30T17:55:42Z")

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I really do hope that Pygmy Rugger is the recruit. Because if all that “Where’s Nava?” sub-of-a-sub stuff turns out to have been scum all along, there might be a small riot.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/476 "2007-08-30T18:07:42Z")

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[QUOTE=tirial]  
Having read the contents of Pygmy Rugger’s post now BM’s added it, all I can say is I suspect you will get your wish for a NAF dunking in the near future.  
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Welcome back!

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/477 "2007-08-30T18:18:26Z")

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[QUOTE=sachertorte]  
I really do hope that Pygmy Rugger is the recruit. Because if all that “Where’s Nava?” sub-of-a-sub stuff turns out to have been scum all along, there might be a small riot.  
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Heh.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/478 "2007-08-30T18:34:48Z")

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[QUOTE=DiggitCamara]  
Welcome back!  
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Seconded. Welcome back **tirial**. 🙂

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/479 "2007-08-30T18:48:46Z")

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You see **Pleonast** , this is why you tell people what your role can do. :smack:

Because if you had, there is a very good chance that \*\*FCoD \*\* would be a small smoking pair of boots instead of you as it is unlikely I would have asked for you to vote against **zuma v2**.

The whole point was to kill a Cultist instead of a town-aligned power role. :rolleyes:

Hey, it nearly worked.

Maybe next time 😃  
Anyway, pull up a chair, grab some nachos and enjoy the remainder of the game.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/480 "2007-08-30T19:04:50Z")

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Is \*\*Idle Thoughts \*\* still playing in this game :rolleyes: 😕

He is spending more time in the Mafia thread than in the Forbidden thread

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