# Forbidden Thread: Mafia V **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 26, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509 "2007-06-26T19:02:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/641 "2007-09-09T14:05:17Z")
Top Dog rules man. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/642 "2007-09-09T14:16:51Z")
I edited my last post because I had to make sure that the day was over. Oh no. Poor, innocent FCOD was dunked. Horrible, that šŸ™‚ Another innocent townie dunked. I will be rooting for our cult. Weā€™ve been at this for a couple months now and Iā€™ll caution those with perfect knowlege to please not provide spoilers here. Cookies will have to decide who is to be trusted and she may innocently stumble into this thread. This is extremely exciting, to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/643 "2007-09-09T14:22:16Z")
And as weā€™ll go into night with FCOD dead, our prophet has an interesting choice to make. I can see a case to be made for each potential kill. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/644 "2007-09-09T14:25:58Z")
With 3 left Cookies will decide the game. the prophet will of course vote for the remaining townie, and the remaining townie will vote for the prophet. Weā€™ll see who has the most convincing case ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/645 "2007-09-09T14:31:20Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] With 3 left Cookies will decide the game. the prophet will of course vote for the remaining townie, and the remaining townie will vote for the prophet. Weā€™ll see who has the most convincing case [/QUOTE] Erm, sorry if I am missing something, but we do not appear to have dunked either the Prophet or the Recruit. This will leave two on two if an innocent is dunked tonight which is a Cult win. If I am missing something, please let me know. šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/646 "2007-09-09T14:35:34Z")
FCOD was innocent town. that leaves 4. The prophet will kill someone tonight. That leaves three. Maybe I made a mistake in that the prophet might kill cookies? That would make sense too. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/647 "2007-09-09T14:37:53Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] FCOD was innocent town. that leaves 4. The prophet will kill someone tonight. That leaves three. Maybe I made a mistake in that the prophet might kill cookies? That would make sense too. [/QUOTE] Cookies is confirmed town unrecruitable, and I can think that the prophet would let cookies decide between the remaining two, but I can also see killing off cookies and having a three-way clusterfuck ending. Iā€™m kind of glad iā€™m out of the game hehe. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/648 "2007-09-09T14:42:20Z")
[QUOTE=CatinaSuit] Erm, sorry if I am missing something, but we do not appear to have dunked either the Prophet or the Recruit. This will leave two on two if an innocent is dunked tonight which is a Cult win. If I am missing something, please let me know. šŸ˜• [/QUOTE] Since weā€™re going going going into night with the game not over, there was no recruit. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/649 "2007-09-09T15:04:40Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] Since weā€™re going going going into night with the game not over, there was no recruit. [/QUOTE] Thenā€¦ (Spoiler for avoidance of suggestion if a Cultist peeks in accidentally). [spoiler] why doesnā€™t the Prophet recruit Tonight and win on the spot? Rather than killing and risking another Day? Or has the Recruit power been removed?[/spoiler]Alternatively, **zuma** is trying to mislead everyone. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/650 "2007-09-09T15:30:53Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] Thenā€¦ (Spoiler for avoidance of suggestion if a Cultist peeks in accidentally). [spoiler] why doesnā€™t the Prophet recruit Tonight and win on the spot? Rather than killing and risking another Day? Or has the Recruit power been removed?[/spoiler]Alternatively, **zuma** is trying to mislead everyone. [/QUOTE] [spoiler] Or alternatively, \*\*Hockey Monkey \*\* got it right on Night 6 and that is the reason the Cult was getting really worried. There is no further recruit, because they have already used it. Which would also explain why the Cult was looking so miserable. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/651 "2007-09-09T19:54:48Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] And as weā€™ll go into night with FCOD dead, our prophet has an interesting choice to make. I can see a case to be made for each potential kill. [/QUOTE] Same here. Itā€™s interesting you say **Cookies** would decide the game, though. I think that the Cult should kill **Cookies** toNight actually. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/652 "2007-09-09T20:00:23Z")
Just to let you all know. People who see these posts in ā€œShow all posts of userā€ can see right through spoilers on that preview. So it doesnā€™t do much good. Iā€™m more for the long spoiler space since it cuts off, when you look up posts, a certain point. [QUOTE=CatinaSuit] [spoiler] Or alternatively, \*\*Hockey Monkey \*\* got it right on Night 6 and that is the reason the Cult was getting really worried. There is no further recruit, because they have already used it. Which would also explain why the Cult was looking so miserable. [/spoiler] [/QUOTE] Both wrong actually. Or, if anything, it was a combo of two things. We tried to recruit an unrecruitable ( **Fretful Porpentine** ) on Night Six. She turned out to be the Priest. That also explains how we knew she was Priest the next Night to kill her off. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/653 "2007-09-09T20:42:54Z")
Interesting. Itā€™s the one possibility that I did not consider as being too unlikely for it too occur. But it will be the only possilibity that will be correct tomorrow morning. If they are smart they will be able to work it out. Oh well, you live and learn. Kudos to the cult for that though. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/654 "2007-09-09T23:31:25Z")
Well, here I am. Before I read this thread, I predict that the conversion was attempted and failed on one of the no-kill nights and the one Cultist left is Kyrie Eleison or USCDiver. Now Iā€™m off to read the juicy spoilers. ā€“FCOD ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/655 "2007-09-10T00:47:46Z")
Welcome, FCOD. And count me among those who thought you were the Prophet. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/656 "2007-09-10T00:49:31Z")
[QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom] Well, here I am. Before I read this thread, I predict that the conversion was attempted and failed on one of the no-kill nights and the one Cultist left is Kyrie Eleison or USCDiver. Now Iā€™m off to read the juicy spoilers. ā€“FCOD [/QUOTE] Why donā€™t you think itā€™s **Queuing**? šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/657 "2007-09-10T02:44:34Z")
Itā€™s interesting that USC Diver doesnā€™t give any credence to the idea that a recruitment attempt could have failed, but just assumes that it either has or hasnā€™t happened yet. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/658 "2007-09-10T03:16:19Z")
Heh heh heh. Oh yesā€¦and one reason I think the Prophet should kill Cookies off toNight is because sheā€™s verifiedā€¦so unless he wants to face, the next Day, the person who isnā€™t the Prophet (the NonProphet) KNOWING who is who (since the NP will know Cookies is a Monk), he best kill off Cookies and leave it with two ā€œunknownsā€. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/659 "2007-09-10T03:17:49Z")
Hmmmmā€¦then againā€¦ maybe thatā€™s not so hot. : / I just thought of something that would majorly backfire if he killed off **Cookies** toNight. Bleah. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/660 "2007-09-10T03:30:57Z")
Now that Iā€™m caught up readingā€¦ I think the action the cult makes tonight will be VERY interesting. As some have said, killing Cookies is the ā€œobviousā€ choice, but not necessarily the best. It all depends on if he think Cookies will react to still being alive. For instance, if the last cultist is USCDiver or Kyrie, they might leaver her alive because she showed interest in thinking Queuing was scum, and hope sheā€™d stay that way. Similarly, if itā€™s Queuing, he might leave her alive hoping that ā€œobviouslyā€ she was left alive hoping sheā€™d vote for Queuing, and thus sheā€™d vote for whichever of the other two was still alive. IOW, it would present her with a WIFOM scenario and then he could hope that he could present a more convincing case than the other, and ONLY have to worry about convincing her. OTOH, if sheā€™s dead, then you basically have a three-way free-for-all which gives the cult a 67% chance of winning versus a 50% chance (since obviously Cookies wouldnā€™t be lynched). So really, unless the last Cultist thinks he has a much better chance of bluffing out Cookies than at least one of the other two, sheā€™s really the best choice by a large margin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509.md?page=34)