# Forbidden Thread: Mafia V

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 26, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509 "2007-06-26T19:02:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 36

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/701 "2007-09-10T23:18:25Z")

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Hehe…

Spaceman Spiff, I think we should at least give Kyrie and Queuing a chance to make response posts before we wrap this puppy up…

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/702 "2007-09-10T23:25:02Z")

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So several people have said they thought I had a Power role during the game… what was it about my playing style (or lack thereof) that was tipping you all off?

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/703 "2007-09-10T23:25:22Z")

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[QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom]  
LOL, classic!

–FCOD  
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Boo! ☹ Good thing there’s no karma on the dope!

I’ll be thinking up death scenes for both lynches. I want it to be epic… worthy of the cluster fuck that is Mafia V!

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/704 "2007-09-10T23:54:26Z")

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It may have been a cluster-fuck, but dammit, I’m glad I played.

Thanks for running the game, Blaster Master. I think you did a fine job.

::applause::

I think the Prophet should, after winning, gruesomely kill Cookies.

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/705 "2007-09-10T23:56:51Z")

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Looks like Firefly just started. I’ve already voted 😃

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/706 "2007-09-10T23:57:24Z")

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Yay Cult!

I mean Booo Cult!

😛

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/707 "2007-09-10T23:58:28Z")

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Good job Blaster Master! No to go meet my early death in Firefly. No one will ever trust me again. 😃

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/708 "2007-09-11T00:00:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
Boo! ☹ Good thing there’s no karma on the dope!

I’ll be thinking up death scenes for both lynches. I want it to be epic… worthy of the cluster fuck that is Mafia V!  
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I just want to echo FCOD. It may have been a clusterfuck at times, but damn was it fun. Thanks much for putting together such a great game BlaM

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/709 "2007-09-11T00:03:02Z")

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oohhh day 1 started in my game. Sadly I can read but not post to those boards from my phone nd my net access is down at home. ☹

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/710 "2007-09-11T00:06:59Z")

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Dangit…make it longer. : / How about…uh…fortyeight hours? Yeah! Yeah, that’s it…

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/711 "2007-09-11T02:14:52Z")

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Awesome game, **BlaM**. Thanks for hosting it!

Yay, cult!

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/712 "2007-09-11T02:15:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
Do I still get a spot? 🙂

FTR, you may want to give this game about a bit of a cool down for final commentary and stuff, not to mention that the NAF/Kat Firefly game just got underway too.  
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I’m reserving spots for you (as the previous game moderator), **Chronos** and **Mtgman** (for help balancing), and **Idle Thoughts** (for helping with the secret boards). You all will still need to pipe up in the game-thread to confirm you want to play.

I’ll start the game-thread as soon as this game ends, but I’ll wait at least a week before starting the game. I want to plenty of time for people to sign up and digest the rules. I’d like the inevitable strategy discussions to take place _before_ the roles are assigned.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/713 "2007-09-11T02:41:08Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
And **Fretful Porpentine** , why were you 100% sure I was the Apprentice for Nights 4, 5, 6? was it the Day 1 Oracle/Apprentice strategy brouhaha? Thanks for the Protection though, I remember that I slept well those nights.  
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The first thing that caught my attention was the post where you said you FoSed Hal because were still bitter about what happened in Haggle. Unfortunately, it came about a page and a half after Hal’s “Yo, Oracle, over here,” post, and I was _sure_ that was a subtle way of drawing his attention. Also, you seemed to be discussing Oracle / Apprentice strategy a lot that day, and you said it was hard for you to cast a Day 1 vote because your “cult-meter isn’t yet calibrated appropriately.” I thought you had Apprentice written all over you!

Then, too, you cast a weak-ish vote for **MHaye** at the end of Day 2, then came back the following morning and reiterated your suspicions of him in stronger terms, saying you had investigated him further – which sounded like a huge breadcrumb to me. (It also made me take a really close look at **MHaye** ’s posts, but I couldn’t find anything that struck me as scummy, so I figured you had either gotten a wrong result or he was being entirely too clever for me. Good thing I didn’t start a bandwagon against him, huh? That seems to have been the only thing I’ve done right all game, unless you count preventing the recruit, and I did that inadvertently.)

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/714 "2007-09-11T02:44:38Z")

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Thank you SO much, BM for this game. It was great and I had a blast.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/715 "2007-09-11T03:20:30Z")

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I enjoyed the game.

However, one question still remains. Can the Believers actually win? Or is it a choice between the Cult winning and the Nonbelievers? Unfortunately I never got a read on either of the two players so I don’t know what alignment the last player is.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/716 "2007-09-11T03:34:15Z")

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[QUOTE=MHaye]  
I enjoyed the game.

However, one question still remains. Can the Believers actually win? Or is it a choice between the Cult winning and the Nonbelievers? Unfortunately I never got a read on either of the two players so I don’t know what alignment the last player is.  
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Well we were never given a breakdown of the total numbers in each group. I think at some point there were several people (myself included) who believed that there was one more Non-believer left after **Hockey Monkey’s** death. Since all deaths since that time have been Cult or Believer, there remains the possibility that one of the remaining players is a Non-Believer, one is the Prophet, and one is Cookies, although Queuing has claimed ‘vanilla townie’ in the past…

So the answer is a resounding ‘I don’t know, maybe?’

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/717 "2007-09-11T03:42:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
Can’t I get ANY credit for making your scumminess in Asylum. 🆒  
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Oh, absolutely. You had me doubting _myself_ for a while there! It occurred to me, once I sort of realized that you were definitely scum, that I had floated the possibility that **Roosh** was scum, and goading you and me into a M2-style fight-of-two-townies. If you had picked up on that and went with it, I would have gone after **Roosh** and I think probably he would have gone down. I’d have been next, and it’d have been game over.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/718 "2007-09-11T04:48:37Z")

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[QUOTE=MHaye]  
However, one question still remains. Can the Believers actually win? Or is it a choice between the Cult winning and the Nonbelievers? Unfortunately I never got a read on either of the two players so I don’t know what alignment the last player is.  
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A while back **Blaster Master** said that he had thought **Hockey Monkey** had all but won it for the non-believers. To me, this implied that there was another non-believer out there. It would therefore have to be **Queuing** , so it that case the Believers can no longer win (but I can, and I’ve got the burns to prove it!)

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/719 "2007-09-11T04:52:08Z")

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I’ll add to the thumbs up to **Blaster Master** for modding this game. I had a fun time, even if I was wrong on pretty well all of my reads.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/720 "2007-09-11T12:59:05Z")

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Concur on the thumbs up for Blaster Master. It was a lot closer than I thought it was.

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