# Forbidden Thread: Mafia V

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 26, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509 "2007-06-26T19:02:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/161 "2007-08-02T12:55:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Scuba\_Ben]  
Wow, I hadn’t thought of that! That would be very interesting.

But I do agree, if they don’t eliminate a second Cultist very soon, it don’t look good.  
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You can thank **Zuma V.2** for that insight. In his recollections of **Hal Briston’s** post he mentions **Hockey Monkey** being a possible town breadcrumb, and it does look really really obvious as a breadcrumb.

I think it is also the reason the Cultists knocked **Hal Briston** off, especially after **Hockey Monkey’s** roleclaim.

As long as the **Cultist’s** don’t try to recruit, they don’t care about the **Alchemist**.

Being Honest, if **Hockey Monkey** is lying and I was the **Alchemist** I would have claimed by now to get rid of a **Cultist**.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/162 "2007-08-02T13:32:00Z")

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**Blaster Master**. The game has actually run fairly well given the number of subs going on. I think in future though, there should be less players, especially given the number of posts generated on Day 1 & 2 of the game. Although I think shorter days may also assist in lowering the number of posts.

I actually think the town has not played as well as the Cultists who deserve to be ahead.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/163 "2007-08-02T14:01:51Z")

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Hmm… Idle Thoughts’ list [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8840441&postcount=2526) is very interesting. There’s exactly one cultist in each group.

Just Kidding 😛 . I just couldn’t help myself.

Honestly, though, I’m surprised he would post a similar list again after the fiasco similar lists caused in M2 and particularly in M3.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/164 "2007-08-02T14:43:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
Hmm… Idle Thoughts’ list [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8840441&postcount=2526) is very interesting. There’s exactly one cultist in each group.  
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Instant thought: “ **BM** , you _best_ be fucking with us…” 🙂

Now then, anyone who has the URL for the Top Secret Info Site (aka “The Oracle’s Tale”), take a look again if you like…I’ve updated it to reveal (in spoilerboxed form) a couple of things.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/165 "2007-08-02T14:58:24Z")

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**Blaster Master**. I think you have taken the right action w.r.t **Sachertorte**.

I also think your reasoning is vague enough not to give any clues as to whether he is Cultist or Town.

I hope you don’t get too much stick for it.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/166 "2007-08-02T15:25:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
Instant thought: “ **BM** , you _best_ be fucking with us…” 🙂

Now then, anyone who has the URL for the Top Secret Info Site (aka “The Oracle’s Tale”), take a look again if you like…I’ve updated it to reveal (in spoilerboxed form) a couple of things.  
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Just out of curiousity, can you PM me the URL?

ETA: Yes, I was just kidding. But I couldn’t resist after the fiasco from M3. 😃

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/167 "2007-08-02T15:32:21Z")

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[QUOTE=CatinaSuit]  
**Blaster Master**. I think you have taken the right action w.r.t **Sachertorte**.

I also think your reasoning is vague enough not to give any clues as to whether he is Cultist or Town.

I hope you don’t get too much stick for it.  
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Thanks. I wasted way too much time mulling over it. It’s even harder to try to make an unbiased decision with perfect information… ugh. I also tried, as you noticed, to be as vague as possible about his role. The last thing I’d want is to go through all the effort to keep the game balanced and accidently tip his role.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/168 "2007-08-02T17:18:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
Thanks. I wasted way too much time mulling over it. It’s even harder to try to make an unbiased decision with perfect information… ugh. I also tried, as you noticed, to be as vague as possible about his role. The last thing I’d want is to go through all the effort to keep the game balanced and accidently tip his role.  
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Of course, I still think he is scum anyway 😛

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/169 "2007-08-02T23:12:12Z")

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That’s a very insightful theory you have there, **CatinaSuit**.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/170 "2007-08-03T08:20:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Kat]  
That’s a very insightful theory you have there, **CatinaSuit**.  
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Thank you **Kat**. Although I guess you would know how true it is or not, and no, please don’t tell me.

I would guess that there are at least 5 Cultists left out of the 19 town left, things are looking bleak unless someone else slips. What is concerning is that with a couple more town deaths, the cultists should be able to stack or divert any voting in the future. It also appears that the town don’t really have any leads or slips to follow.

Also given the nature of these games **Sachertorte** will still be around in 2 weeks time. Although he will actually be away for 2 1/2 game days given that the game days are down to 4 real time days.

Actually **BM** , if you need a sub for the future from someone else dropping out and you think I haven’t been too corrupted by the Forbidden Thread, I’m up for it.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/171 "2007-08-03T13:45:12Z")

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Wow, this Day is getting exciting. I wonder if anyone has the cajones to create a two or three-way tie?

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/172 "2007-08-03T13:49:06Z")

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[QUOTE=CatinaSuit]  
Actually **BM** , if you need a sub for the future from someone else dropping out and you think I haven’t been too corrupted by the Forbidden Thread, I’m up for it.  
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I’ll keep that in mind. I just REALLY hope I don’t have to look at any more subs… it’s getting stressful.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/173 "2007-08-03T13:50:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
I’ll keep that in mind. I just REALLY hope I don’t have to look at any more subs… it’s getting stressful.  
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I have a bad feeling about the town’s chances in this game. I guess, if the Apprentice can pull about four rabbits out of his/her hat, there’s still a prayer, but the town just doesn’t seem to be going about the search in a way that makes a lot of sense.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/174 "2007-08-03T14:10:17Z")

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
I have a bad feeling about the town’s chances in this game. I guess, if the Apprentice can pull about four rabbits out of his/her hat, there’s still a prayer, but the town just doesn’t seem to be going about the search in a way that makes a lot of sense.  
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The biggest problem for the Apprentice is that Cultists come up as non-believers, so its not as obvious as it could be.

I think it unlikely **fluiddruid** is in a Town power role, otherwise I would have expected a roleclaim by now.

All it needs is someone to switch from \*\*fluiddruid \*\* to \*\*Malacandra \*\* to cause some real problems. The problem is, none of them look particularly scummy, though I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/175 "2007-08-03T14:27:21Z")

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I really hope **Pygmy Rugger** has not just outed himself as the **Appentice**. I really hope so or this town is stuffed.

Either way, I would expect his imminent demise tonight. Unless the \*\*Priest \*\* decides to play double bluff with the **Cultists**.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/176 "2007-08-03T15:22:25Z")

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ARGH this is so frustrating. I really, really hope the Cultists don’t find a power role tonight. Or I hope they waste a recruit effort (by trying to recruit someone who can’t be recruited).

Whoever the Apprentice is, they’re doing a pretty good job of laying low.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/177 "2007-08-03T15:31:52Z")

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
I have a bad feeling about the town’s chances in this game. I guess, if the Apprentice can pull about four rabbits out of his/her hat, there’s still a prayer, but the town just doesn’t seem to be going about the search in a way that makes a lot of sense.  
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Well, things are looking rather bleak for the town; however, just like there were some key decisions early that could have swung the momentum either way (and ended up going the cult’s way), there’s a couple that I see coming up as soon as Tonight that I think have a much higher chance of going pro-town and giving them a huge boost in morale.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/178 "2007-08-03T17:11:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
Well, things are looking rather bleak for the town; however, just like there were some key decisions early that could have swung the momentum either way (and ended up going the cult’s way), there’s a couple that I see coming up as soon as Tonight that I think have a much higher chance of going pro-town and giving them a huge boost in morale.  
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Don’t you just hate it when GM’s get all cryptic on their players 😃

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/179 "2007-08-04T00:45:41Z")

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[QUOTE=CatinaSuit]  
Thank you **Kat**. Although I guess you would know how true it is or not, and no, please don’t tell me.  
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All of it’s true. Except the parts that aren’t.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-mafia-v/409509/180 "2007-08-04T12:05:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Kat]  
All of it’s true. Except the parts that aren’t.  
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I’m so glad I saw it after the edit, I would hate to be spoilered now.

Just waiting for sun up to see what happens next.

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