# Forbidden thread Version 3 (off limits to players of Mafia III)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 19, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795 "2007-04-19T15:34:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/181 "2007-05-10T16:28:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
Spontaneous comments and visible frustration are very strong town tells, in my estimation. And an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.  
[/QUOTE]  
But with _my_ usual level of visible frustration, I’m liable to get lynched anyway. On Day One.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/182 "2007-05-10T17:15:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> But with my usual level of visible frustration, I’m liable to get lynched anyway. On Day One.

Not if I’m in the game! (As long as I’m not Mafia, of course.) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/183 "2007-05-10T18:31:08Z")

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Apparently all I need to do to get lynched is to say something.

Or not say something.

Is it my cologne?

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/184 "2007-05-10T23:31:35Z")

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Odd how several of the people I suspect currently have said something similar to “I’m going to _have to_ vote for **fluiddruid** ” Italicizing mine. Me thinks the mafia are piling on one of their own. Well, of course some of them are voting for her, but you see what I mean.

[Link for **Gadarene**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8513021&postcount=788).

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/185 "2007-05-11T01:27:34Z")

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Your list is more bunched up than the other one, **dnooman**. And that’s all I’m gonna say. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/186 "2007-05-11T03:23:13Z")

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Well, how about that. The bandwagon was right this time.

Would someone please show me what kept **fluiddruid** alive for the first few days and lost it for her on day 4?

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/187 "2007-05-11T03:40:37Z")

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Thank God they got one! If **fluid** hadn’t been scum, I would have… well, thrown up my hands in dismay and disbelief, at the very least.

Scum predictions: Fluid, Idle Thoughts, Lemur, and either Hal or Diggit.

Or course, these are based completely and totally on Idle Thoughts and dnooman’s lists and Gadarene’s comments about them, so they are massively cheating and irrelevant to actual gameplay. As far as actual gameplay goes, Lightnin’, Omi, and tirial all scream Town to me. SnakescatLady, Come to the Dark Side, and Blaster Master are more problematic but I lean Town. I would be wildly suspicious of Caerie D and Millit, except that I know they aren’t possible. Nesta, Lemur, Rachm Qoch, Hal, Diggit, and Idle are all on the “mild suspicion” list.

I post this only so that I can look back on it objectively, because otherwise I WILL end up going “tirial… yeah, I knew that all along!” 'cause there’s nothing like hindsight and delusion.

And no, I won’t outline the specific reasons for all of those, because I’m not a player, I don’t have to, and what are you gonna do, lynch me for it? 😃

But tommorow, chances are about 90% that Caerie will swing without Town seriously considering other prospects… so sad.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/188 "2007-05-11T04:33:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
And no, I won’t outline the specific reasons for all of those, because I’m not a player, I don’t have to, and what are you gonna do, lynch me for it? 😃  
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Now there’s a scum tell if ever there was one.

**Lynch Dragoness**  
and  
**FOS Gadarene**

Not sure about how **Lightnin** is screaming town to you. But I’ll concede that may just be because I was so sure he wasn’t when I was handed a bowl of nachos.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/189 "2007-05-11T13:52:44Z")

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Yay town!

I have to admit that I didn’t have a strong scum read on fluiddruid, but I didn’t offer an opinion either way. Could someone sum up for me the points against fluiddruid that brought the conclusion that she’s scum? The only things I can remember was the discussion long ago about her being a mod and therefore entitled to a juicy role and the fact that she’s voted for town outright thoughtout the game.  
Oh yeah, Wasn’t fluiddruid as Kyrie’s breadcrumb a substantial part of the case against fluiddruid?  
**Kyrie** , Did you investigate fluiddruid?

Now that they finally got a scum, there should be good information to be had from previous posts (Not that I’m rereading all that stuff).

As for lightnin’, I have him on my ‘town’ list from Day 2, which of course should warrant re-evaluation, but I’m not actually playing the game so I’ll stick with what I got.

I also had CaerieD as scum based on her ridiculous assertions of not wanting to get into the town’s sticky mess and voting no lynch. CaerieD and fluiddruid were in the same Idle Thoughts category that Gadarene tipped us off with, so presumably CaerieD, Millet the Frail, and tirial are town. I guess CaerieD’s actions really were clueless town actions and not scum intransigence. Bad me.

I will stick with DiggitCamara as scum based on flimsy evidence: his not voting for his top scum candidate on day one.

I was kind of hoping the town would lynch town on day 4, just to see the reaction.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/190 "2007-05-11T13:56:36Z")

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> Kyrie, Did you investigate fluiddruid?

😉

Like I said, **Kyrie** had somewhat unfortunate timing issues, investigation-wise.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/191 "2007-05-11T15:08:27Z")

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Well it’s good to know that one of my scum predictions was correct.

Go Town!

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/192 "2007-05-11T15:33:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Projammer]  
Not sure about how **Lightnin** is screaming town to you. But I’ll concede that may just be because I was so sure he wasn’t when I was handed a bowl of nachos.  
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Well, I say why in post #139, but I wouldn’t be so sure if **Gadarene** hadn’t responded in post #140.

Oh please don’t let them go after **Caerie** next… I suppose **Idle Thoughts** is safe from suspicion for awhile, but please let them look at that horribly scummy **DiggitCamara** …

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/193 "2007-05-11T15:38:34Z")

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I notice I’ve been less circumspect in this thread that **NAF** was in his; I hope that’s not inappropriate.

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**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/194 "2007-05-11T15:43:01Z")

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[QUOTE=sachertorte]  
**Kyrie** , Did you investigate fluiddruid?

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As much as I’d like to, I think I still can’t answer this without possibly providing too much information to any active players who may be inappropriately visiting this thread. Now that she’s dead, though, there are two things that made me very suspicious of **fluiddruid** that I can point out:

When fluid cast her vote for **percypercy** , **Lightnin’** was the current vote leader. She explained that she was voting for percy because she thought Lightnin’ might have a power role. She very much made it seem as if she thought Lightnin’ was in danger of being lynched. However, when she explained her vote the next day, she said that at the time she cast it, she assumed that **Projammer** was going to be lynched regardless of her vote. Her statements, both quoted in [#813](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8514719&postcount=813), are not consistent. She was, at best, casual with the truth. Lynch all liars, as they say over at mafiascum.

I found it interesting that the next day, the town repeatedly bickered about whether it was Lightnin’ or Projammer who was saved by the switch to percy, without ever tracking down the source of their confusion.

The second thing that made me very suspicious, although it happened after I had voted for her, was fluid’s [claim to have voted for me twice](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8515549&postcount=831). She voted for me only once in the game thread – I suspect that she also voted for me once as night kill in the mafia discussion area and accidentally referenced both votes. However, I can’t imagine any reason I would be a contender for day one’s night kill, so maybe it was just an honest mistake.

Neither of these points were discussed much on day three, though, so I can’t say that they were significantly contributing factors in her eventual lynch.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/195 "2007-05-11T16:05:04Z")

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Hey gang. And **Kyrie** , our unfortunate victim. How’s death treatin’ ya? 😉

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/196 "2007-05-11T16:09:13Z")

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Very nice job, **fluid**. I’ve been meaning to tell you that for a while. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/197 "2007-05-11T16:14:35Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
Hey gang. And **Kyrie** , our unfortunate victim. How’s death treatin’ ya? 😉  
[/QUOTE]

Welcome aboard, **fluid**! You and your side are playing great – I’m almost glad I’m dead; you’ve saved me the frustration that I would surely be experiencing if I were still actively involved.

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**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/198 "2007-05-11T16:32:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Kyrie Eleison]  
Neither of these points were discussed much on day three, though, so I can’t say that they were significantly contributing factors in her eventual lynch.  
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I should have mentioned that **tirial** touched on both of these points, although she got the voting thing backwards (she thought that fluid had claimed that I voted for her twice,) and tirial was definitely a contributing factor. Props to **tirial**.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/199 "2007-05-11T16:36:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
Very nice job, **fluid**. I’ve been meaning to tell you that for a while. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]  
Being alive would have been nicer, but I think we’re in a good place for a win at this point. There’s still a lot of game left though.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/200 "2007-05-11T17:12:35Z")

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Welcome **fluiddruid**! Very eloquent defense posts, by the way.

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