# Forbidden thread Version 3 (off limits to players of Mafia III)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 19, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795 "2007-04-19T15:34:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/41 "2007-04-22T18:05:12Z")

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There’s some hardcore analysis going on during Day One this time around! It’s fun to watch. And the voting could hardly be more spread out.

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**Author:** ![Queuing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/90ced4/32.png) [@Queuing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queuing)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/42 "2007-04-23T14:19:18Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
HAHA! Take that Q-ball!

Damn :smack:  
[/QUOTE]

Jealousy does not become you MTS. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/43 "2007-04-23T14:24:45Z")

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Any last minute predictions, now that it looks likely that **percypercy** will be the first lynchee?

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/44 "2007-04-23T17:59:22Z")

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Wow.  
Quite frankly, I’m shocked.  
I’m shocked that the town shifted its target from Lightin’ to someone else. I was sure that the town would lock onto one suspicious person and not let go. It is good that the town has the flexibility to shift targets, but shifting the shift happened with very little time for anyone to react, respond, or think carefully about what was happening.

I’m not so shocked that percypercy is town. Not that I had a good read either way, but the reasoning for lynching percypercy seemed really thin to me.

I also think that the shift to percypercy gives the town more information than if they just lynched lightin’ without further discussion. Now the town gets to look at who instigated the shift and fun stuff like that.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/45 "2007-04-23T18:04:45Z")

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I will say that with one notable exception, I think the Mafia’s played superbly so far.

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**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/46 "2007-04-24T00:12:08Z")

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Can I get a hug please? They’re so mean over there. I’m gonna hang out in the loser’s lounge and watch the game unfold now.  
-Lil

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/47 "2007-04-24T22:04:22Z")

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Hugs to **percypercy**.

So what’re your thoughts, **NAF**? 🙂

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/48 "2007-04-24T22:07:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
Hugs to **percypercy**.

So what’re your thoughts, **NAF**? 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

I think Lighnin’ is scum. I think Idle Thoughts is likely scum and possibly Fluiddruid as well.

I also think they missed their chance to pick me up as a recruit. I could have been a great help to them since I think my first day put me firmly on (almost) everyones town list.  
Also, did I call it or what? Got killed so fast it would make your head spin.

(I told Gad when he PM’d me my role that I would be one of the fist to die, since I almost always am when I am vanilla.)

also, what’s up with this thread being so inactive? Come on people, this is a good game. Lets get some sideline action going on!

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/49 "2007-04-24T22:20:13Z")

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Oh, and Projammer too. Totally scum.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/50 "2007-04-24T22:48:37Z")

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I just went back and actually read your death scene for me Gad. Hats off to you sir, that was a fine piece of writing. I actually had to keep my self from laughing out loud at the bit about mumbling to himself about monkeys etc and calling out “the pages! the pages!”

Nicley done.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/51 "2007-04-24T23:22:02Z")

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I disagree with the assertion that mafia should have recruited you, **NAF**. The correct mafia play is to recruit the night after the second to last mafia get lynched. (Or if recruiting wins the game, whichever comes first). By delaying the recruiting, the mafia doesn’t have to worry about their recruit getting lynched. Also, they should want to recruit a confirmed _mason_.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/52 "2007-04-24T23:27:16Z")

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[QUOTE=sachertorte]  
I disagree with the assertion that mafia should have recruited you, **NAF**. The correct mafia play is to recruit the night after the second to last mafia get lynched. (Or if recruiting wins the game, whichever comes first). By delaying the recruiting, the mafia doesn’t have to worry about their recruit getting lynched. Also, they should want to recruit a confirmed _mason_.  
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I know you are right intellectually. But emotionally, I wanted to keep playingthink they made the wrong call. Call it a gut instinct that if they had recruited me, they would have won. 😃

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**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/53 "2007-04-25T02:20:24Z")

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I’m enjoying being the first off a hell of a lot more than I probably should. Now I’ll just sit back and watch.  
-Lil

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/54 "2007-04-25T13:32:16Z")

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\*\*DiggitCamara \*\*said:

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> In my last post on sunday I refrained from unvoting percypercy (whom I still suspected, albeit ontly in the 3rd position) because my number one spot (Lightnin’ ) seemed to head for the gallows

\*\*DiggitCamara \*\*seems very defensive of his vote for **percypercy** , oddly so. He defends himself by saying that **Lightnin’** was his top candidate for scum, but didn’t change his vote from \*\*percypercy \*\*to **Lightnin’** because it looked like **Lightnin’** was already headed to the lynch. This doesn’t make any sense. Why vote for someone other than who he most thought was scum?  
As scum, not voting for the lynch is a good idea as to avoid suspicion. I think \*\*DiggitCamara \*\*thought **Lightnin’** was going to be lynched by the town and purposefully avoided voting for **Lightnin’**.  
Bad coverup, but it doesn’t look like anyone in the game is as suspicious as me. Oh well.

My conclusion:  
**Lightnin’** (town)  
**DiggitCamara** (scum)

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/55 "2007-04-25T15:37:55Z")

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[QUOTE=PROJAMMER]  
Had to go ahead and respond to this part. I’ll address the rest with a more detailed posting when I get the chance. Not a slow day at work today.

If any of them are betting that I’m mafia, go ahead and take their money.  
[/QUOTE]

This is the kind of thing ONLY a scum would say. Anyone else wouldn’t even think about it.

\*\*Projammer \*\* is such scum. And if \*\*Projammer \*\* is scum I think \*\*Fluiddruid \*\* is scum as well.

So that is 2 down. 2(?) to still find.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/56 "2007-04-25T15:49:30Z")

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I agree that **Projammer** ’s latest post is cloyingly screaming “Look at me, I’m town!” Wasn’t there a discussion about this type of behavior during day one? Someone using the phrase “us townies” or something like that? Who was that?

I think the town is being too focused on vote history right now. There isn’t enough vote history and confirmed information to make assessments based on votes; that should come later. Right now, they should concentrate on behavior, and vote _reasoning_.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/57 "2007-04-25T15:55:00Z")

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I totally agree. I am wondering if that isn’t part of the reason why I was killed, because I was suspicious of people for the way they behaved even though there wasn’t a vote history to go off. I think maybe I hit a bit too close to the mark on a couple of my accusations.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/58 "2007-04-25T16:17:32Z")

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The reasoning of some players is totally orthogonal to my own.  
**Lightnin’** writes of **dnooman** :

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> However, I think it’s still suspicious that you were on my bandwagon when it looked like I was going to be lynched, and then when the tide swung percypercy’s direction and it looked like I wasn’t going to be swinging, you hopped onto the next easiest person to frame.

I’m of the opinion that mafia will avoid bandwagons like the plague. I don’t think mafia would behave as \*\*dnooman \*\*did. Many seem to be looking for explicit actions that are scummy rather than looking at subtle mistakes like…

**Hal Briston** wrote:

> [@](#):
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> Someone please correct me if I’m wrong here, but this reads to me like dnooman knows exactly how many players are scum, no?
> 
> Perhaps I’m reading this completely wrong, but it seems to me like he just slipped and stated that there are four scum players. Am I missing something with this?

I hope HB really presses that point. It is a good one, much better than attacking based on vote switches.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/59 "2007-04-26T14:52:30Z")

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The interesting thing is that reading the Mafia III thread with perfect information, I’m noticing a _lot_ of things about the posting patterns (and style) of the Mafia and such that will help me out immensely the next time I’m a player. 🙂

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forbidden-thread-version-3-off-limits-to-players-of-mafia-iii/400795/60 "2007-04-26T15:00:30Z")

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**NAF** , you must be happy with the current \*\*Projammer \*\*bandwagon. I know you think he is scum; how did you reach this conclusion?

The fact that \*\*NAF \*\*and \*\*percypercy \*\*voted for \*\*Projammer \*\*isn’t helping, but I don’t really see that as a good reason for or against a \*\*Projammer \*\*lynch.

Why do you think the mafia picked \*\*NAF \*\*last night?  
Town consensus seems to be because of perceived experience. I’m wondering if there was anything that made them think Cop. I’m guessing no, since there was no night yet.

Also, I recall \*\*NAF \*\*mentioning certain behaviors he saw that matched scum behavior in Game 2 (a game where \*\*NAF \*\*had the benefit of both watching and knowing all roles). At the time I thought this was rather unfair… for Game 2, since someone in game 2 could have read **NAF** ’s post and appiled that slip of information to game 2. I guess \*\*Projammer \*\*really is scum then, eh? The ability of \*\*NAF \*\*to see things in game 2 and apply them to game 3 would be a strong reason to kill him off early. Now the question is will the town lynch or shoot off on someone random _again_.

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