# Force exerted on a levee

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [January 3, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173 "2006-01-03T02:37:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/1 "2006-01-03T02:37:35Z")

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How do you calculate it for say an 18’ high levee in New Orleans?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/2 "2006-01-03T03:01:50Z")

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This question probably has a factual answer.

Moved from IMHO to GQ.

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/3 "2006-01-03T03:13:19Z")

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Resultant force=1/2_p_g_D^2_W where p=density of water (1.94 lbm/ft^3), g=gravity (32.2 ft/s^2), D=depth of wather and W=width of submerged surface.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/4 "2006-01-03T03:14:15Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> Resultant force=1/2_p_g_D^2_W where p=density of water (1.94 lbm/ft^3), g=gravity (32.2 ft/s^2), D=depth of wather and W=width of submerged surface.

This question definitely has a factual answer.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/5 "2006-01-03T03:18:43Z")

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Thank you.

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/6 "2006-01-03T03:31:54Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Thank you.

You’re welcome, I neglected to mention that W is the projected width onto the vertical plane.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/7 "2006-01-03T03:52:01Z")

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Do you have a link to how the equation was derived?  
Thanks again.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/8 "2006-01-03T04:33:11Z")

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Isn’t it affected by the number of blues singers on the levee at the time of the breach?

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/9 "2006-01-03T04:42:42Z")

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Can’t find a link but:

dP/dD=p_g or in words the change in pressure over the change in depth is density tiems gravity.  
Multiplying by dy and integrating yields P=p_g_D+Constant. In this case the constant is zero becuase air pressure acts on all surfaces so P=p_g_D. In order to calculate the total pressure on the surface we write an equation for an infintesimally small piece of area and integrate. If you are facing the surface lets call X the horizontal axis and D is the verticle. Now, force is Pressure times area with our area being dX_dD. So our equation is F=P_dA=p_g_D_dX\*dD. We need to integrate that equation twice, for X from 0 to W where W is the width and for D from 0 to Y where Y is the depth.

Now, since the pressure doesn’t vary in the X direction the integration results in W. That leaves us with F=W_p_g_D_dD. Since w, p and g are constants in the D direction we can pull them out of the integral. F=(W_p_g)_int(D,dD,0,Y). The integral of D is 1/2_D^2. We plug in our limits and find int(D,dD,0,Y)=1/2_Y^2. Putting that back in our equation we get F=W_p_g_Y^2/2. I don’t know if that explanation helps, I suspect it won’t, but I couldn’t find a good webpage.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/10 "2006-01-03T07:47:26Z")

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[this](http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNet/Topics/Pressure/HydroStatic.html) was the best I could find after a brief look.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/11 "2006-01-03T15:47:56Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> I don’t know if that explanation helps, I suspect it won’t, but I couldn’t find a good webpage.

Well, I knew 1/2D^2 was in integral to find force over depth. 🙂

Thanks again.

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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/force-exerted-on-a-levee/338173/12 "2006-01-03T17:47:21Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Do you have a link to how the equation was derived?  
> Thanks again.

It’s just the volume of a right triangular prism 1 unit wide multiplied by the weight of the water in the prism and the length of the levee in the same units as those of the prism.
