# Foreign "jeeps"

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 27, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958 "2006-11-27T17:04:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/1 "2006-11-27T17:04:30Z")

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What do other nations armed forces use? Nations not allied the the US and thus do not have contracts to Jeep or AM General.

I know in WWII the Germans built the Kubelvagen off the VW chassis to compete with the Jeep, and the British developed the Land Rover after the war.

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/2 "2006-11-27T17:19:52Z")

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Probably the favoirite vehicle of all time (post WWII) was the Toyota FJ. They were inexpensive, durable, could be adapted for any terrain or purpose and were easily servicable. Insurgent armies found them to be more useful than any other vehicle. They could swap parts to keep them going, mount a gun in the back and they were good to go anywhere, anytime. There are still a lot of them around the world.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/3 "2006-11-27T17:44:07Z")

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Mitsubishi had a license from Willys to manufacture Jeeps for the Japanese military. Production continued until 1998, according to the Japanese Wikipedia page. It was replaced by a [military version of the Pajero/Montero](http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F:JGSDF_73_Kogata_Truck_%28MITSUBISHII%29_1.jpg) which I think is still being manufactured and used.

The Japanese military also has [Toyota troop transport vehicles](http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F:JGSDF_Koukidousha_%28TOYOTA%29_1.jpg) which look very much like the American HMMWV. I don’t know if it’s produced under license, or an imitation, or convergent evolution.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/4 "2006-11-27T21:50:24Z")

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The Swedish armed forces have this. It’s made by[BAE systems](http://www.baesystemsomc.co.za/default.aspx?tabid=647) of South Africa and is a 7 metric ton, 18’ long, 6 cylinder diesel with a torque of 406 Nm @ 1.800 rpm

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/5 "2006-11-27T21:59:22Z")

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Third world armies like Toyotas (both trucks and Land Cruisers), as their are easily available commercially, abeit they generally don’t come with mounting points for weapons which have to be fashioned locally. European armies generally like either the Land Rover or the MB Gelandwagen (G-Wagon), although lots of European armies manufacture their own types. Eastern European armies still use the various Soviet GAZ type vehciles. Maybe **China Guy** can tell us if the Chrysler joint-venture Jeep plant in Beijing is still producing “BJ Jeeps” after the Germans took them over.

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**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/6 "2006-11-27T22:00:54Z")

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The Unimog has made by Mercedes since 1948:

[http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id\_photos\_unimog.php3](http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_unimog.php3)

Of course, Jeep is owned by Daimler Chrysler, so that’s the same company as Jeep now.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/7 "2006-11-27T22:05:09Z")

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Sticking to jeep-like vehicles. Since it’s introduction in the early eighties Norway’s been using Mercedes-Benz G-class vehicles. Here they’re known as Geländewagen, which is the generic German term for (all) terrain vehicle. According to the [German wikipedia article](http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_(Bundeswehr)) it’s also in use in Germany, Argentine, Austria, Denmark, Finnland, France, Greece, Canada, the Netherlands, Portugal and Switzerland. A version is also used by the US Marine Corps as the [Interim Fast Attack Vehicle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps_Force_Reconnaissance#Interim_Fast_Attack_Vehicle_.28IFAV.29)

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/8 "2006-11-27T22:21:20Z")

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Switzerland and Austria use the [Pinzgauer.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinzgauer_High_Mobility_All-Terrain_Vehicle)

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/9 "2006-11-27T23:11:54Z")

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Since you mentioned Land Rovers, [here](http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Military_vehicles.htm) is some info on some military “jeeps” used in a handfull of different countries.

Kotick

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**Author:** ![gouda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c77e96/32.png) [@gouda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gouda)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/10 "2006-11-28T06:51:00Z")

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The Indian Army uses[these](http://www.mahindra.com/mahindras/automotive/auto_army.htm). These vehicles haven’t changed much over the last 6 decades.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/11 "2006-11-28T09:53:00Z")

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[QUOTE=naita]  
A version is also used by the US Marine Corps as the [Interim Fast Attack Vehicle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps_Force_Reconnaissance#Interim_Fast_Attack_Vehicle_.28IFAV.29)  
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I remember reading about this. The Humvee was introduced as a bigger, more capable ‘light truck’ replacement for the jeep, but then it was found to be much too big, bulky and thirsty for many of the jobs that jeeps used to do. So they reintroduced jeeps. Clever, eh?

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/12 "2006-11-28T10:37:36Z")

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[QUOTE=gouda]  
The Indian Army uses[these](http://www.mahindra.com/mahindras/automotive/auto_army.htm). These vehicles haven’t changed much over the last 6 decades.  
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Someone tried selling the Mahindra to the Australia public about two decades again,I read in todays newspaper Atco are having another attempt,I don’t like their chances.  
Regards Charlie

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/13 "2006-11-28T10:48:26Z")

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[QUOTE=scr4]  
Mitsubishi had a license from Willys to manufacture Jeeps for the Japanese military. Production continued until 1998, according to the Japanese Wikipedia page. It was replaced by a [military version of the Pajero/Montero](http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F:JGSDF_73_Kogata_Truck_%28MITSUBISHII%29_1.jpg) which I think is still being manufactured and used.  
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I believe Mitsubishi is also pitching them to the Chinese military. No idea how many they’re selling, though.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-jeeps/381958/14 "2006-11-28T17:12:54Z")

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[QUOTE=bluezooky]  
Someone tried selling the Mahindra to the Australia public about two decades again,I read in todays newspaper Atco are having another attempt,I don’t like their chances.  
Regards Charlie  
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I dunno…If I had the chance to get a “brand new” CJ-3 or CJ-5, I would.

I wonder how feasible it is to mix-n-match AMC/Jeep parts to these Mahindra/Jeeps.
