# Forgettable, Mediocre Actors and Actresses Who Were Nevertheless Successful

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**Created:** [January 17, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445 "2016-01-17T21:51:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/101 "2016-01-20T05:06:34Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Sandra Bullock is anything but forgettable.

I concur. She does “adorable nerd” about as well as it’s been done.

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**Author:** ![Tread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Tread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tread)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/102 "2016-01-20T12:26:57Z")

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[Demond Wilson](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933284/)

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**Author:** ![Tread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Tread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tread)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/103 "2016-01-20T12:37:33Z")

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[John Schuck](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0775870/)

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/104 "2016-01-20T19:08:01Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Well, it’s Carroll O’Connor and, IIRC, Robert Loggia, so…yeah.
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> But I think _Circle Of Friends_ was better. I still think, “Man, she’s waaay too skinny” whenever I see her.
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> She was also in a series on cable with Eddie Izzard, playing a couple of con artists who pretend to be a wealthy, upper class family.

She played John’s Cleese’s daughter when John Cleese was playing Karen’s boyfriend on Will & Grace.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/105 "2016-01-20T19:25:35Z")

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> [@Tread](#):
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> [John Schuck](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0775870/)

John Schuck? Forgettable?

Without looking him up:

Sgt. Enright - _McMillan and Wife_.  
Gregory “Yoyo” Yoyonovich - _Holmes & Yoyo_.  
Herman Munster - _The Munsters Today_.

He also played a Klingon ambassador in two _Star Trek_ films and had recurring roles on **Babylon 5** and _Law & Order SVU_.

He’s one of those instantly recognizable character actors who stands out from the background on everything he’s in. Color me puzzled as to why you think he’s forgettable.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/106 "2016-01-21T00:00:20Z")

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**Andie McDowell** is the dictionary definition of this. When she enters a scene, I always think “who just walked off-screen?”.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/107 "2016-01-21T00:14:48Z")

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> [@Tread](#):
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> [Demond Wilson](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933284/)

To be fair, roles have been sparse for Wilson since 1983. There hasn’t been a lot of opportunity to kknow him, hence not much chance to forget him. I don’t remember him from anything except playing second banana to Red Foxx in Sanford and Son. He did a fair but not memorable job of that, as I recall.

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**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/108 "2016-01-21T00:52:50Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> I give you show-killer extraordinare [Dylan McDermott](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001518/?ref_=nv_sr_4) whose very name in the credits is a signal to try something else.

The name is familiar only because I really liked Young Guns I and II (and still like them). On the other hand, I still can’t remember which of the not-Sheen/Sutherland/Phillips/Estevez characters he played. Even worse, I’ve looked those movies up in IMDB a few times to read the character/actor correlations and still can’t remember the face.

–G!  
I’ve just seen a face  
Now I’ll forget the time and place…:smack:

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/109 "2016-01-21T01:06:19Z")

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> [@Grestarian](#):
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> The name is familiar only because I really liked Young Guns I and II (and still like them). On the other hand, I still can’t remember which of the not-Sheen/Sutherland/Phillips/Estevez characters he played. Even worse, I’ve looked those movies up in IMDB a few times to read the character/actor correlations and still can’t remember the face.
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> –G!  
> I’ve just seen a face  
> Now I’ll forget the time and place…:smack:

I’m betting you have the same problem I do in keeping these guys separated in my brain; could it be [Dermot Mulroney](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000551/?ref_=tt_cl_t5) you’re thinking of for the Young Guns stuff?

ETA: See Post #39.

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**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/110 "2016-01-21T01:13:57Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> I’m betting you have the same problem I do in keeping these guys separated in my brain; could it be [Dermot Mulroney](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000551/?ref_=tt_cl_t5) you’re thinking of for the Young Guns stuff?
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> ETA: See Post #39.

Yep!  
And I saw post #39 too long after the edit window to tack on an ETA.

I guess they’re both that forgettable. ☹

–G!  
Unforgettable…  
That’s what you aren’t…

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/111 "2016-01-21T01:23:15Z")

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Maybe we need a spinoff thread where we try to come up with celebrities who are easily confused for each other. A pair from way back when would be [Dan Duryea (1907–1968)](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002053/?ref_=nv_sr_1) and [Richard Widmark (1914–2008)](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001847/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1) and much was made of their resemblance back then. I suspect that sort of thing would be even easier nowadays.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/112 "2016-01-21T01:30:09Z")

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Robin Williams

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/113 "2016-01-21T02:46:32Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Maybe we need a spinoff thread where we try to come up with celebrities who are easily confused for each other. A pair from way back when would be [Dan Duryea (1907–1968)](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002053/?ref_=nv_sr_1) and [Richard Widmark (1914–2008)](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001847/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1) and much was made of their resemblance back then. I suspect that sort of thing would be even easier nowadays.

Am I the only person around who frequently mixes up Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman?

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/114 "2016-01-21T04:04:55Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> Am I the only person around who frequently mixes up Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman?

No.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/115 "2016-01-21T04:28:28Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Sandra Bullock is anything but forgettable.

If this site had a category for Mundane, Boring Actors I Never Want To See Again, Sandra Bullock would be at the top of the list.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/116 "2016-01-21T04:49:33Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> **Andie McDowell** is the dictionary definition of this. When she enters a scene, I always think “who just walked off-screen?”.

For me, she’s so far below mediocre as to be unforgettably bad. I saw Mimi Rogers in something tonight and thought she might fit.

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**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/117 "2016-01-21T08:57:30Z")

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I guess “The Practice” managed to run 7 years (and 2 Emmys for best drama, though it was only in the top 10 of the ratings for 2 years) without anyone here seeing it. And from 1997-2015 McDermott was starring on a TV series somewhere in every season except the 2 years after The Practice ended.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/118 "2016-01-21T09:59:02Z")

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This is clearly a parody thread, similar to the meme about nerd shut-ins critiquing actress looks: “Jessica Alba is hideous; look at those knees!”

Forgettable actors: Leonardo Dicaprio, Brad Pitt, Sandra Bullock, Arnold fucking Schwarzenegger?

Parody is the only explanation.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/119 "2016-01-21T14:32:37Z")

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> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#):
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> I guess “The Practice” managed to run 7 years (and 2 Emmys for best drama, though it was only in the top 10 of the ratings for 2 years) without anyone here seeing it. And from 1997-2015 McDermott was starring on a TV series somewhere in every season except the 2 years after The Practice ended.

I find him very attractive so I definitely enjoyed the eye candy on The Practice.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgettable-mediocre-actors-and-actresses-who-were-nevertheless-successful/743445/120 "2016-01-21T18:04:09Z")

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> [@bb49](#):
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> If this site had a category for Mundane, Boring Actors I Never Want To See Again, Sandra Bullock would be at the top of the list.

I am wondering if this might not be a case where gender bias is the cause of the disagreement. Women might not respond so well to Bulloch’s charm as men. Though, to be honest, I like Bulloch, but I don’t find her all that sexy. Maybe it’s residual sexism, me finding a grown woman cute in the same way you might find a child cute.

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