# Forgotten movies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [January 2, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476 "2024-01-02T02:08:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/41 "2024-01-02T15:52:22Z")

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**[After the Fox](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060200/)** was a 1960’s Italian comedy that starred Peter Sellers who played an Italian criminal mastermind that faked making a movie in an Italian town and used the film making as cover to conduct a heist. The townspeople were so enamored of the idea of a film starring a famous American actor being made in their town, that by the end of ‘filming’ they (unknowingly) participate in the heist itself.

Sellers made his breakthrough, of course, playing Inspector Clouseau, and this forgotten film is eclipsed by his other achievements.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/42 "2024-01-02T15:53:10Z")

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I liked _ffolkes_ in the '80s on cable, and I liked it. I saw it again a decade or two ago. I still liked it, but not as much as the first time. Oil rigs remind me of _Breaking The Waves_. I’m not sure my wife would like it, but I want to watch it again every time I think of it. I’ll have to find the DVD.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/43 "2024-01-02T16:07:35Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I saw a bit of **ffolkes** on TV some years ago and would like to see it again. I don’t think it’s forgotten, but pretty obscue for a Roger Moore film.

How about Folks, the 1992 movie with Tom Selleck? It was apparently panned, but my family saw it on VHS before widespread opinions were known and we thought it was pretty good.

Don Ameche plays a man suffering from end-phase dementia. It’s a comedy, mainly.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/44 "2024-01-02T17:48:19Z")

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As a kid I would see _What Did You Do in the War, Daddy_ in the afternoon on off channels some times. I figure it’s pretty much forgotten. Blake Edward directed starring James Coburn and Dick Shawn. Great supporting roles by Carroll O’Connor and Harry Morgan. Morgan was not yet known for comedy but turns it up to 11. Apparently Norman Lear was convinced O’Connor could play Archie Bunker after watching this.

_Fandango_ is mostly forgotten. It’s Kevin Costner’s first real starring role. Both funny and bittersweet with an eclectic soundtrack with both contemporary classic rock from the time and music from Pat Metheny.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/45 "2024-01-02T18:00:57Z")

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**Hercules** and **Hercules Unchained** : spaghetti epics, both starring Steve Reeves as the beefcake, and both released in 1959. I thought they were great fun when I was a kid.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/46 "2024-01-02T18:02:59Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> **Hercules** and **Hercules Unchained** : spaghetti epics, both starring Steve Reeves as the beefcake, and both released in 1959. I thought they were great fun when I was a kid

MST3K kept this going for quite awhile.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/47 "2024-01-02T18:54:55Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> **Hercules** and **Hercules Unchained** : spaghetti epics, both starring Steve Reeves as the beefcake, and both released in 1959. I thought they were great fun when I was a kid.

I saw these as a kid, then asked my parents what happened to the movie _Hercules Chained_.

Really.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/48 "2024-01-02T19:03:48Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I saw these as a kid, then asked my parents what happened to the movie _Hercules Chained_.
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> Really.

And your questioning mind landed you on the Dope.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/49 "2024-01-02T19:08:31Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> And your questioning mind landed you on the Dope.

We went to see the movie _The Longest Day_ about D-Day. During the film, my father told me he had been there, on Normandy Beach, during the war (but well after D-Day, I learned later).

Impressed, I asked, “So who is playing you?”

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/50 "2024-01-02T19:18:57Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I can’t think of the musical without thinking of the musical. Roger Corman’s original is the default.

As a kid who grew up with the musical. I was an nearly an adult before I found out about the original…and then it was a trivia bit about early Jack Nicholson…and I was a monster kid and into old movies. The average person and the average musical fan think about the musical first.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/51 "2024-01-02T19:24:08Z")

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“McDonald’s!”

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/52 "2024-01-02T19:30:54Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I can’t think of the musical without thinking of the musical. Roger Corman’s original is the default.

‘… without thinking of the original.’

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/53 "2024-01-02T20:01:23Z")

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[_The Bed Sitting Room_](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064074/)

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/54 "2024-01-02T20:09:09Z")

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> One vote for the **[Flim Flam Man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flim-Flam_Man)**.
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> Starred George C Scott who played a conman in the rural south. A few years later he would garner great acclaim for his title role in **Patton** , but this amusing 1967 comedy is frequently overlooked

Make that two votes. Loved it when it first ran, recently acquired it on DVD (obvious copy from VHS) and it’s held up very well. Harry Morgan in a supporting role steals every scene he’s in.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/55 "2024-01-02T20:31:32Z")

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Some movies of the past forty-odd years have become “lost” by not making the move along with each new home viewing format. Some stuff that was on VHS never made it to DVD, and some of the ones that did never got a BluRay release. With streaming, one would hope that everything surfaces eventually (if Prime and Tubi can have eleventy-thousand backyard-shot horror flicks from this decade alone…) but there’s plenty that’s slipped through the cracks. Some of it is also rights issues: occasionally the ownership of a movie comes down to one guy (the Stones’ concert movie _C#&$Sucker Blues_), or it’s owned by a corporation that goes under or doesn’t give a crap (_Spinal Tap_ was owned by a cosmetics conglomerate for a long time, if memory serves).

From my time practically living at the Cinema de Paris in Montreal, I saw a handful of movies that never, to the best of my searching, made it onto home video. There’s a decent thriller set in India called _Immaculate Conception_ that I saw once and then it vanished. It starred a very pre-fame Melissa Leo, so I’m kinda surprised it hasn’t resurfaced. David Byrne released a concert film called _Between The Teeth_, which is basically half Talking Heads material and half solo stuff from his Brazilian years. It’s not quite as good as _Stop Making Sense_, obviously, but the groove is tremendous and I wouldn’t mind seeing it again. Speaking of concert movies, has anyone been able to see _The Cure in Orange_ in decades, and not on a bootleg? _Terminal City Ricochet_ is a classic Canadian punk movie with a soundtrack that did quite well but is virtually impossible to track down. I loved _Roadside Prophets_, starring John Doe and Adam Horowitz, but that’s in the wind these days, as is _Motorama_, which was written by Joseph Minion of _After Hours_ fame, and has a solid indie cast (Garrett Morris, Mary Woronov, Robert Picardo, Jack Nance, cameo by Drew Barrymore in her wilderness years).

As well, a lot of Miramax’s 1990s/2000s output is in limbo because of Harvey Weinstein’s legal troubles. Kevin Smith wasn’t able to do any kind of 20th anniversay rerelease or reissue of _Dogma_ in 2019 because the rights are tied up and Harvey’s, well, busy. I’ve seen that BluRay used for ridiculous sums, glad I already had a copy. Not that anyone’s clamboring for a spiffy remastering of _Bounce_, but still…

Now I’m thinking back to the years I attended the L.A. Independent Film Festival, and except for _Dead Man_ (I met Iggy Pop at the afterparty, that guy’s just a wiry ball of gristle), virtually nothing I saw there even got a token release: Joe Mantegna’s directorial debut _Lakeboat_, an absolutely heartbreaking LGBTQ+ movie called _Big Eden_, a quirky family comedy called _A Texas Funeral_, about a clan raising camels down south (Martin Sheen, Chris Noth, Robert Patrick, Grace Zabriskie, Isaiah Washington). I sat in front of Jeremy Piven and pre-Sopranos Edie Falco at a screening of _Layin’ Low_, and ran into Adrienne Shelley (R.I.P.) as we were both going into the premiere of her movie _I’ll Take You There_. Find 'em if you can.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/56 "2024-01-02T20:34:22Z")

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**The Grey Fox** (1982)  
Canadian Western that had been long forgotten until a long delayed re-release on DVD a year or three ago. Richard Farnsworth in the role that should have won him an Oscar for Best Actor. One of my top ten favorite movies. _Based_ on a true story. I can’t recommend this film strongly enough.

**Hell In The Pacific** (1968)  
Another of my top ten. During WW2 a US Navy pilot and a Japanese Navy pilot find themselves stranded together on an otherwise uninhabited Pacific island. Only two actors in the entire film: Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune, both of whom coincidentally were veterans of the war in the Pacific.  
The special edition DVD has subtitles in English AND Japanese; earlier home releases had only Marvin’s speech captioned. Since the original theater release had no subtitles, we (English speakers) could only guess at what Mifune’s character was saying. I’ve always assumed the movie was released the same way in Japan, without subtitles, leaving Japanese audiences wondering what Marvin was saying.  
A magnificent little anti-war film.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/57 "2024-01-02T20:46:05Z")

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High Road to China: early 80s film with Tom Selleck and Bess Armstrong. (I do believe I got to see Ms Armstrong’s bare bottom.)

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> “McDonald’s!”

Selleck: “Are you hungry, Dad?”

Ameche: (short pause) “Yes!”

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Roger Corman’s original _Little Shop of Horrors_. Even rabid fans of the musical seem to be unaware of it.

I have a DVD with the original LSoH from an odd source. At first I was thinking it came in a box of cereal, but then remembered it came with an issue of InsideDVD magazine.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> How about **Alakazam the Great** – 1960 anime originally entitled _Saiyuki_ and translated into English with the voices of Jonathan Winters, Arnold Stang, and Frankie Avalon (! – singing only).
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> This one has shown up on home media, but I’ve never seen it there. And I don’t recall ever seeing it on TV. I saw this at a local movie matinee when I was a kid,.

I’ve seen it on TV more than once. At least once on a cable channel and at least once on an ota “point” channel (like MeTV on 4.2, or similar). What I _have_ tried hard to find viewable online (and failed to find) is an original Japanese version.

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