# Forgotten movies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [January 2, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476 "2024-01-02T02:08:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/121 "2024-01-03T15:28:09Z")

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Oddly I own a low budget DVD of it. I’ve watched it twice.  
I think many fans of the 80s movie are aware of the Corman movie, it helps that is was a early Jack Nicholson movie.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/122 "2024-01-03T16:44:12Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> A friend of mine at the time owned a Land Rover

Did he name it The Antichrist?

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/123 "2024-01-03T16:53:51Z")

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> [@cieskokid](#):
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> “Tapeheads” starring John Cusack and Tim Robbins.

Saw it when it first came out. At the time I didn’t know Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles was a real place.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/124 "2024-01-03T16:56:36Z")

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[The Monitors](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0064684/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_the%2520monitors) (1969), not available on any streaming service, but [posted on YouTube.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4IoF2U_DI&pp=ygURdGhlIG1vbml0b3JzIDE5Njk%3D)

Staring journeyman actress Susan Oliver, whose life is recounted in the documentary [The Green Girl,](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2342700/) (on Tubi), and who gets to use her aviator skills here. Also Guy Stockwell, Dean’s lesser-known and more Shakesperian-inclined brother, also in the interesting, forgotten movies _The War Lord_ and _Santa Sangre._ Also Avery Schreiber (though I’d prefer Marshal Effron) and Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen - the kinds of Republican that once served in a lost, lamented political system.

This movie was filmed guerrilla fashion on the streets of Chicago, denied to film makers by Mayor Richard J. Daley because that’s how he wanted it. There’s more footage of the Vasquez Rocks than of the US’s second largest city in the 1960s.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/125 "2024-01-03T17:31:13Z")

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Tapeheads is such crazy fun. I remember seeing it as a kid–probably because my older sister rented because of Cusack (I’m certain she didn;t care for it). I recently watched it again for the first time–it made me miss Roscoes (I moved from LA two years ago) and love the tiki bar scene just because… hey, tiki! (apparently filmed at the old Kelbos which is now a strip club)

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/126 "2024-01-03T17:52:00Z")

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_Max Dugan Returns_ was a quiet little movie from 1983, Neil Simon’s last film with Marsha Mason as lead. Jason Robards played the title character, with Matthew Broderick and Donald Sutherland in supporting roles. I mostly remember it because it was on HBO all the time while I was young.

Also has one of those “sequel-sounding” titles as cited above by @CalMeacham and @Robot_Arm - I had a guy tell me once he liked the film and was looking around for the orignal _Max Dugan_ on VHS.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/127 "2024-01-03T17:54:13Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I’m fairly sure Westlake refused to write screenplays for his books, although he did so for others. I’m also sure he could have done better than these mediocrities. Why is a mystery.

Could it have been that he didn’t have the time? He published over 100 books, using over a dozen pseudonyms. He is like Stephen King and Elmore Leonard in that I’ll happily read anything he wrote.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/128 "2024-01-03T18:00:13Z")

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> Nearly every Christmas season, I remember a movie that the local rerun station played sometime in that time frame.
> 
> [Gay Purr-ee (1962)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057093/mediaviewer/rm588256000/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk)
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> I will periodically sing [Bubbles! Bubbles! Billions and billions of bubbles!](https://youtu.be/CQeOuZw_FTo?feature=shared)

I love this film. I think it’s the first animated cartoon where they went out of their way to get noted singers to do the voices \*-- in this case Judy Garland, Robert Goulet, and Hermione Gingold. Paul Frees, not noted for his singing (although a great voice) got to sing alongside them. And Thurl; Ravenscroft has a part, too. Red Buttons also sings.

It’s also the movie that cost Chuck Jones his place as an animation director at Warner Brothers. When Warners saw that Chuck Jones had produced this movie for a rival company they fired him. Jones’ later weork – _Mowgli’s Brothers, The White Seal_, etc., not to mention _How the Grinch Stole Christmas_ were done elsewhere.

- I’m serious – Disney didn’t get famous singers for its cartoons. Ed Wynn and Jerry Colonna in _Alice in Wonderland_ were comics who sang, not singers.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/129 "2024-01-03T18:20:44Z")

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Would the original _She Devil_ (1957) count as forgotten? Not to be confused with the Meryl Streep and Roseanne Barr film by the same name, it was one of those so-bad-it’s-good B movies. As a kid, I was fascinated by the idea of turning your hair blonde by sheer willpower.

How about _The Horse’s Mouth_, starring Alec Guinness, who also wrote the screenplay? I liked the movie, loved the ending.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/130 "2024-01-03T18:52:46Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> _Max Dugan Returns_ was a quiet little movie from 1983, Neil Simon’s last film with Marsha Mason as lead. Jason Robards played the title character, with Matthew Broderick and Donald Sutherland in supporting roles. I mostly remember it because it was on HBO all the time while I was young.
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> Also has one of those “sequel-sounding” titles as cited above by @CalMeacham and @Robot_Arm - I had a guy tell me once he liked the film and was looking around for the orignal _Max Dugan_ on VHS.

…my god was this on HBO everyday when I was 8 years old? It was this and that bank robbery movie with Art Carney and George Burns.  
I know its not true, but I remember someone telling me years and years ago that “Max Dugan Returns” could have been a secret sequel to an earlier movie with Robards where he played a criminal. This was pre-imdb so there wasn’t an easy way to check an actor’s past movies unless you went to the library and found a “movie book.”

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/131 "2024-01-03T19:22:06Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Sorry, I didn’t realize you were answering my question. My bad.

No biggie. Go in peace.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/132 "2024-01-03T19:25:06Z")

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“Doodle! I know you’re out there!”

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/133 "2024-01-03T19:35:46Z")

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He wrote a bunch of screenplays. He didn’t ignore Hollywood. Maybe he was happy to just sit back, take the money, and let others tackle the near-impossible challenge of adaptations.

Lawrence Block is another one. He’s also a master of every mystery genre, with the tightest plots of anyone, taking every passing detail and fitting them in so that they’re important.

His famous comic series is The Burgler Who… One of them was made into a movie just called _Burgler_. It starred Whoopi Goldberg and it’s known mostly for being the flop of flops.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/134 "2024-01-03T19:46:47Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> “Young Doctors In Love” was an “Airplane”-esque parody that came out a couple years later. Some people thought it was hilarious; I didn’t. YMMV, of course.

“here will be no apple juice with breakfast today due to a problem in urology.”

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/135 "2024-01-03T20:04:22Z")

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Sounds a little like _ **Where Does It Hurt?** _ with Peter Sellers and JoAnn Pflug. A hilarious and grossly unappreciated movie.

After Sellers is caught diddling a nurse in a storage room:

**BoD MATRON:** Aren’t you ashamed of such childish behavior?  
**SELLERS:** Oh, there was nothing childish about it, I assure you!

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/136 "2024-01-03T20:33:52Z")

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> [@cieskokid](#):
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> Here’s one I remember from my partyin’ teen years, early '80s & the beginning of MTV (used 2b ALL music, ALL the time, kids! ) “Tapeheads” starring John Cusack and Tim Robbins. Totally killer satire on the music biz then, the $$, empty headed “stars”, etc. Also, produced by Mike Nesmith of The Monkees AND somehow 4free on Y\*\*Tube for the past 7years. Funny as hell, checkitout, you will NOT regret it

Loved that one. Gloriously shambolic with some great one-liners (“Not THE Bonnie Raitt?” kills me every time). Some of it hasn’t aged well, admittedly.The soundtrack is also super hard-to-find. I got a copy for the Swanky Modes songs.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/137 "2024-01-03T21:00:59Z")

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Scarecrow (1973) - Gene Hackman and Al Pacino  
Start The Revolution Without Me (1969) - Gene Wilder and Donald Sutherland. Second best movie ever featuring Orson Welles getting shot and falling into water.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/138 "2024-01-03T22:25:14Z")

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> [@Jay\_Z](#):
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> Start The Revolution Without Me (1969) - Gene Wilder and Donald Sutherland.

> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5XP9TFVa18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5XP9TFVa18)

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/139 "2024-01-03T23:42:20Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I thought that Jules Verne + Walt Disney was a match made in heaven, but as far as I know, Disney only adapted two of Verne’s novels – tyhis and **20,000 Leagues**. They should have done more of them, but the closest they came was the Verne-esque **Island on Top of the World.**. Maybe they were discouraged by the poor box office performance of _Castaways_ (which, I admit, appears to have mostly disappeared, unlike 20,000 Leagues, which has had a lot of video releases).

Island at the Top of the World was my favorite movie when I was a kid. Still have the LP soundtrack from the film. You can’t go wrong with a good airship.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/IjHnvAHr3is/hqdefault.jpg "The Island at the Top of the World (trailer)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjHnvAHr3is&t=22s)

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/forgotten-movies/995476/140 "2024-01-04T00:13:18Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> You got it! I could have included _ **The Parent Trap** _ and _ **The Trouble with Angels** _, but that would have been too obvious. (I think.) 🙂

The nuns showed the latter at school when I was in grade 4.

One got up and blotted out the image in front of the projector with a notecard during the bra-shopping scene, so as to not contaminate our impressionable little minds.

I recall _Freebie and the Bean_, mainly due to my confusion as to not seeing Orson Bean in any of the trailers.

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