# Fork 5 - Fork Hillary. Fork her and all her flying monkeys.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 4, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725 "2008-06-04T05:58:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/141 "2008-06-07T03:51:10Z")

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Well, tomorrow (Saturday) is the big day. It’ll be Hillary’s last opportunity to exhibit honor, grace and selflessness in concession. As often as she’s proudly flown her roguish colors, I’m tempted to predict the worst, but I’ll refrain, and give her benefit over my doubt.

I do predict a riveting spectacle, if only for a few moments, for those of us whose emotions have become, perhaps, a little too enmeshed and invested in the outcome of this cycle’s primary season.

Obama will, no doubt, comport cordially and respectfully, as always. Clinton will pledge her support with conviction.

Let it be so.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/142 "2008-06-07T03:59:16Z")

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Does anybody know what time she’s expected to make her speech?

I still half expect her to be introduced as “the next President of the United States” again, and to see her launch into another ambiguous non-concession where she spends most of her time touting her own numbers.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/143 "2008-06-07T04:04:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Does anybody know what time she’s expected to make her speech?

I still half expect her to be introduced as “the next President of the United States” again, and to see her launch into another ambiguous non-concession where she spends most of her time touting her own numbers.  
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Shhhhhh… **Dio** , don’t jinx it! Positive thoughts. Positive thoughts. Breathe in…and out…in…and out.

I believe it’s supposed to be around Noon.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/144 "2008-06-07T13:35:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia]  
I believe it’s supposed to be around Noon.  
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_Waits for Gary Cooper and for the music to start playing "Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darlin’ "_

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/145 "2008-06-07T16:20:38Z")

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I’ve been watching the CNN live feed for almost half an hour now. So far it’s been people milling around, elbowing each other, scratching their butts, and shouting Hillary! at random intervals. No Hillary though. I thought it was supposed to start at 12pm Eastern Time.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/146 "2008-06-07T16:22:29Z")

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Fucking bitch hasn’t even left her house yet. They probably have to pry her fingers off the door frame.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/147 "2008-06-07T16:24:17Z")

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Trying to remain positive, but that she hasn’t left her house yet is worrisome.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/148 "2008-06-07T16:24:36Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]

I’ve been watching the CNN live feed for almost half an hour now. So far it’s been people milling around, elbowing each other, scratching their butts, and shouting Hillary! at random intervals. No Hillary though. I thought it was supposed to start at 12pm Eastern Time.  
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MSNBC keeps showing her car still parked in her driveway, and apparently it’s a 15 minute drive to the venue from her home. It’s my understanding that being considerably late is her M.O., so this comes as no surprise to me.

ETA: The car JUST pulled out of her driveway.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/149 "2008-06-07T16:27:13Z")

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Is that a Yamaha Silverado motorcycle in her driveway?

Nevermind. It’s a scooter.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/150 "2008-06-07T16:29:36Z")

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I’m going to predict right now that the words “I concede” will not come out of her mouth.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/151 "2008-06-07T16:33:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Shayna]  
MSNBC keeps showing her car still parked in her driveway, and apparently it’s a 15 minute drive to the venue from her home. It’s my understanding that being considerably late is her M.O., so this comes as no surprise to me.  
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I’d heard she’s often late, but half an hour late? It’s just ridiculous.

Why would anyone running for a public office cultivate an image of being chronically late? 😕

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/152 "2008-06-07T16:33:43Z")

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Well, at least she’s left the house 🙂

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/153 "2008-06-07T16:33:45Z")

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Does anyone doubt that the Clintons were just watching CNN on TV, waiting a half hour just to relish making people wait for them?

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/154 "2008-06-07T16:34:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
I’m going to predict right now that the words “I concede” will not come out of her mouth.  
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She’s more likely to suspend her campaign. She still has a LOT of fundraising to do to make up that $30 million debt.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/155 "2008-06-07T16:36:39Z")

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Has she really been this late often for planned events during this campaign season?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/156 "2008-06-07T16:36:47Z")

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She will speak of Obama as the “presumptive nominee,” but she will not call him “the nominee.” She will not explicitly admit that he won or clearly declare that her campaign is over. I hope I’m wrong.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/157 "2008-06-07T16:39:05Z")

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Parsing language would be a big mistake on her part, so I’m hopeful that’s not what we will hear.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/158 "2008-06-07T16:45:24Z")

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I wonder how much her debt played in Tuesday’s non-concession? She must have known that “we’ll fight on!” is a better fund-raising battle cry than “I guess I lost.”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/159 "2008-06-07T16:49:01Z")

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“This isn’t the party I wanted.”

Right out of the box with the whining.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-5-fork-hillary-fork-her-and-all-her-flying-monkeys/451725/160 "2008-06-07T16:53:31Z")

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This is the same fucking speech she gave on Tuesday.

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