# Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 18, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726 "2008-03-18T00:01:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2321 "2008-06-03T11:59:05Z")
According to Tim Russert, Terry McAuliffe said this morning that if Obama hits the 2118 number, Hillary will indeed concede and suspend her campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2322 "2008-06-03T12:06:23Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] Since they’re only half-sized, maybe we should call them Michigoslings? [/QUOTE] heh 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2323 "2008-06-03T12:14:22Z")
If Obams hits the magic number tonight, I have every confidence she will concede, and further, Obama will act warmly and respectfully towards her. Like he has most of this campaign. One thing I do not understand, is how people can say “bad press”. Clinton didin’t have bad press, she made some egregious errors and was called on it. That’s not bad press, that’s making a gaffe and getting called on it. Same thing happened to Obama at times. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2324 "2008-06-03T12:18:06Z")
To a small cadre of insane people, absolutely any criticism of Clinton is sexist, and Obama is public enemy number one because he had the gall to beat her. With a straight face they’ll also tell you that among his offenses are accusing Clinton of racism (which he never did, but given their own predisposition to blame everything on sexism, it’s worth noting the hypocrisy of playing the “race card” card.) ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2325 "2008-06-03T12:22:25Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] Obams [/QUOTE] _Please_ let that be a typo. The world does _not_ need cutsey names for the future leader of the free world. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2326 "2008-06-03T12:25:36Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] _Please_ let that be a typo. The world does _not_ need cutsey names for the future leader of the free world. [/QUOTE] Sausage fingers this morning…nnot ennough cccoffee yet 😃 I have no pet names for the O-Man 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2327 "2008-06-03T12:45:20Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] _Please_ let that be a typo. The world does _not_ need cutsey names for the future leader of the free world. [/QUOTE] The New York Post has settled on “Bam” as his _nom de headline_, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2328 "2008-06-03T12:47:12Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] heh 😃 [/QUOTE] :mad: Beat me to it by 40 minutes! _shakes tiny fist_ ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2329 "2008-06-03T12:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] _Please_ let that be a typo. The world does _not_ need cutsey names for the future leader of the free world. [/QUOTE] What, you don’t like “Obambi”? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2330 "2008-06-03T13:07:29Z")
[QUOTE=Lakai] I actually feel kind of bad for Bill. He got nothing but bad press throughout the whole primary. Every time Bill was on the news it was about his latest gaffe. [/QUOTE] And Michelle Obama was treated so much better? As far as I’m concerned, Bill earned every bit of bad press he got. [QUOTE=cricetus] Since they’re only half-sized, maybe we should call them Michigoslings? [/QUOTE] Ok, that? Hilarious! **Jolly Roger** , my father’s mother was like that. Didn’t mourn her death, either. Nor am I mourning the demise of the Clintons. I can’t wait for her concession speech. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2331 "2008-06-03T13:14:00Z")
From the [Chicago Tribune](http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-obama0603.artjun03,0,839561.story) this morning: A Democratic source said that at least five to 10 House members would endorse Obama this morning, at least 10 senators will endorse him by the end of the day and an additional 10 superdelegates also will endorse him during the day. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2332 "2008-06-03T13:47:05Z")
So that’s at least 25, and he’s likely to get, what, about 15 pledged delegates tonight? Am I wrong? That mean this is really going to end by 10 or 11 tonight, depending when the polls close. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2333 "2008-06-03T13:48:51Z")
**Jolly Roger** and **Shayna** , Clarence Darrow once said, “I’ve never wished anyone dead, but I’ve read some obituaries with considerable satisfaction.” I’m starting to think I’ll feel the same about HRC’s political obituary… ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2334 "2008-06-03T14:08:40Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] **Jolly Roger** and **Shayna** , Clarence Darrow once said, “I’ve never wished anyone dead, but I’ve read some obituaries with considerable satisfaction.” I’m starting to think I’ll feel the same about HRC’s political obituary… [/QUOTE] She’s got no one to blame but herself if her political career comes grinding to a halt when her term is up. This is the end of an era, a Clinton baby-boomer era - enter the age of a new presidency… What is the era before the baby boomers called? McCain isn’t a baby boomer…he’s prior to that. This presidencial campaign is going to be interesting. Vote for the elderly war hero same old same old, or the young buck, bring on the frsh new ideas… I can’t wait to see their first debate. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2335 "2008-06-03T14:12:21Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] What is the era before the baby boomers called? McCain isn’t a baby boomer…he’s prior to that. [/QUOTE] The popular term now seems to be “The Greatest Generation”, which, while acknowledging WHY people want to give them that moniker, seems really kind of arrogant and narcissistic to me. It is interesting that the Baby Boomer window of political influence (presidentially, anyway) seems to have ended so soon. Clinton and Bush…that’s it? For a generation that has seemingly endless amounts of hype published and broadcast about it, that’s not a very impressive generational accomplishment… ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2336 "2008-06-03T14:12:56Z")
From MSNBC: today’s Gallup tracking poll puts Obama ahead of McCain 49% to 44% in a general election matchup. The numbers had been tied until now. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2337 "2008-06-03T14:19:59Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] > [@Phlosphr](#): > > What is the era before the baby boomers called? McCain isn’t a baby boomer…he’s prior to that. The popular term now seems to be “The Greatest Generation”, which, while acknowledging WHY people want to give them that moniker, seems really kind of arrogant and narcissistic to me. [/QUOTE] McCain is from the Silent generation, not the Greatest (AKA G.I.). The birth years for the G.I. generation were 1901-1924; for the Silent, 1925-1942; the Boomer, 1943-1960; and X, 1961-1981. All this is taken from Strauss & Howe. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2338 "2008-06-03T14:21:30Z")
McCain is a little young to be “The Greatest Generation,” which defines the generation that fought WWII and kept the home fires burning. The war was over before McCain was old enough to do much more than deliver the newspapers with the headlines. I think he’s in one of those cuspy labelless generations. Well, not many people were having babies during the great depression. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2339 "2008-06-03T14:23:07Z")
Ron Allen, who covers Hillary’s campaign for MSNBC, reports that there is substantial infighting among her staff about whether she should bow out tonight. She is said to be on the phone, last-ditch pitching her electability argument, but the tracking poll today sort of puts a damper on that. No one is willing to predict what she might do. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2340 "2008-06-03T14:25:08Z")
Oh, now I see there is a label, thanks to ultrafilter. I’m generation X, but I like to joke that my wife is a baby boomer… Baby boomers are the children of WWII generation, right? My father in law was a WWII vet and was nearly 50 when she was born. When she was growing up teachers always “corrected” her when she said her dad was in WWII… “no, honey, he must have been in Vietnam or maybe Korea.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=118)