# Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 18, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726 "2008-03-18T00:01:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2361 "2008-06-03T15:28:33Z")

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Well, just for the record, McCaullife is on CNN saying it’s false, yet the AP is sticking by it.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2362 "2008-06-03T15:30:11Z")

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Lemme see. About noonish back in NYC now. No announcement yet. She is NOT going to concede. She is going to wait to the polls close, that is she is going to lose.

(I am reminded of how rich people “give away” money after they die. They didn’t give it ways, they freakin’ died.)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2363 "2008-06-03T15:30:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Merkwurdigliebe]  
Well, just for the record, McCaullife is on CNN saying it’s false, yet the AP is sticking by it.  
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Any news outlet that gives any credence to ANYTHING Terry Mac says doesn’t deserve the appelation.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2364 "2008-06-03T15:30:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Merkwurdigliebe]  
Well, just for the record, McCaullife is on CNN saying it’s false, yet the AP is sticking by it.  
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Either it’s infighting or it’s Clinton-style hairsplitting: she could acknowledge that Obama has enough delegates to win and still not say she’s quitting, for example.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2365 "2008-06-03T15:31:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
Either it’s infighting or it’s Clinton-style hairsplitting: she could acknowledge that Obama has enough delegates to win and still not say she’s quitting, for example.  
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…which is how I believe it’ll go down.

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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2366 "2008-06-03T15:35:51Z")

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This is the reason why I can’t watch CNN anymore. They have Wolf Blitzer on there who is biased only in the sense that one can be biased towards stupidity. His constant MO is to underestimate the intelligence of voters and overestimate the importance of stupid shit like lapel flag pins. Where people like Chris Matthews will occassionally call bullshit on such stupid arguments, Wolf seems to like to encourage it. I don’t need an liberal bias to my news, I just need a pro-sentient being slant.

I miss Bernard Shaw. He always seemed classy.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2367 "2008-06-03T15:37:00Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Any news outlet that gives any credence to ANYTHING Terry Mac says doesn’t deserve the appelation.  
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Harold Ickes just did an interview on MSNBC saying the same things just as strongly.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2368 "2008-06-03T15:43:38Z")

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::six months later::

Senator Obama has indeed won enough electoral votes to achieve the white house in January 2009, which is why we need your support now more than ever! Go to [HillaryClinton.com](http://HillaryClinton.com) and remind everyone that I get knocked down, but I get up again and fight on to the White House (clap clap point point)!

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2369 "2008-06-03T15:45:31Z")

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Chuck Todd just gave an interesting interpretation of the confusion. He says that there are two Clinton inner circles — a Hillary inner circle and a Bill inner circle — and that what we are hearing are conflicting statments from those two circles. The Hillary circle fighting on, and the Bill circle giving up.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2370 "2008-06-03T15:46:18Z")

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[QUOTE=stolichnaya]  
::six months later::

Senator Obama has indeed won enough electoral votes to achieve the white house in January 2009, which is why we need your support now more than ever! Go to [HillaryClinton.com](http://HillaryClinton.com) and remind everyone that I get knocked down, but I get up again and fight on to the White House (clap clap point point)!  
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You forgot dopey bug-eyed grin.

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**Author:** ![Flipshod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@Flipshod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flipshod)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2371 "2008-06-03T15:46:57Z")

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It’s time for Obama to twist some arms and get enough supers to commit before his speech. The supers have to see that it is in their best interest to do what Obama asks, and he needs to pass 2118 tonight. Hillary had her chance to be gracious, and it appears she won’t. So it’s time to finally, finally put the fork in. Finally.

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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2372 "2008-06-03T15:48:44Z")

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Ugh, let’s get this over with… You know, the second I read the news, I felt sorry for her, then terry mac gets on TV and it all washes away. I can’t be the only one, right?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2373 "2008-06-03T15:49:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
Jim Lovell’s sad circuit of the moon comes to mind.  
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Henry Clay, William Jennings Bryan, Thomas Dewey, Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, Richard Gephardt and others ran repeatedly for the Presidency and lost, sometimes narrowly. That’s gotta hurt, too.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2374 "2008-06-03T15:52:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Flipshod]  
It’s time for Obama to twist some arms and get enough supers to commit before his speech. The supers have to see that it is in their best interest to do what Obama asks, and he needs to pass 2118 tonight. Hillary had her chance to be gracious, and it appears she won’t. So it’s time to finally, finally put the fork in. Finally.  
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He could be asking them to wait until the polls close. It has consistently been his nature to be classy like that, regardless of any political consequences.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2375 "2008-06-03T15:56:22Z")

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[QUOTE=stolichnaya]  
I get knocked down, but I get up again  
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[She drinks the whiskey drink, she drinks the vodka drink, she drinks the lager drink, she drinks the cider drink…](http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/media/2008/04/hillary_shot.jpg)

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**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2376 "2008-06-03T15:57:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Merkwurdigliebe]  
I’d rather not have the most powerful position in the world be used for yet another person’s self-therapy.  
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Word.

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**Author:** ![Flipshod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@Flipshod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flipshod)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2377 "2008-06-03T16:02:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
He could be asking them to wait until the polls close. It has consistently been his nature to be classy like that, regardless of any political consequences.  
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That’s what I’m hoping he does. And even better yet, have Edwards, and Richardson, and (Gore?), and whoever else he can get, standing up there with him as he announces the big block that went his way after the polls closed and the pledged he got. Maybe 2200. With a roaring crowd. Sometimes you gotta claim what is yours, damn the consequences.

I’m just hoping … 🙂

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2378 "2008-06-03T16:04:10Z")

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[Wow](http://www.digitaljournal.com/image/37636). It almost makes me almost feel almost sorry for her.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2379 "2008-06-03T16:05:02Z")

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Noon New York Time. The Clinton campaign has just announced the will not be conceding tonight. How clueless and classless.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2380 "2008-06-03T16:09:25Z")

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Paul. Dude. You really need to keep up. 😃

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