# Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 18, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726 "2008-03-18T00:01:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 146
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2901 "2008-06-04T20:43:47Z")
I’m pretty sure it was reported that only over the weekend did she decide to speak in New York instead of one of the states where the voting was happening or another significant site. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2902 "2008-06-04T20:49:39Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] …I was wondering if they assumed the situation would be different than it was, and - primarily because they were in denial… [/QUOTE] It’s not that they were in denial, it’s because they were a flippin’ basement and didn’t have access to what was happening in reality. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![LonghornDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LonghornDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonghornDave)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2903 "2008-06-04T20:53:06Z")
Why does she need to drop out now just because he’s clinched the nomination? This article has a pretty good parallel that would argue for her to stay in the race. > **[The New Republic](https://newrepublic.com/)** > > Founded in 1914, The New Republic is a media organization dedicated to addressing today’s most critical issues. > [@](#): > > A Sports Parable > > A statement from Detroit Pistons general manager Joe Dumars: > > I wanted to say a few words about the Michigan Solution. No, not that travesty of justice. I’m talking about a fair, common-sense resolution of the Eastern Conference Finals. > > Some in the media are declaring the series over because the Boston Celtics have won four of the six games played so far. But I don’t understand why, with a series this close and hotly contested, anyone would want to shut it down before we play a seventh game and have all the results in. > > … ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2904 "2008-06-04T20:55:29Z")
[QUOTE=LonghornDave] Why does she need to drop out now just because he’s clinched the nomination? This article has a pretty good parallel that would argue for her to stay in the race. > **[The New Republic](https://newrepublic.com/)** > > Founded in 1914, The New Republic is a media organization dedicated to addressing today’s most critical issues. [/QUOTE] Hmm are you serious? ---
**Author:** ![LonghornDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LonghornDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonghornDave)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2905 "2008-06-04T20:58:26Z")
[QUOTE=DigitalC] Hmm are you serious? [/QUOTE] I think she has just as good of an argument to stay in the race as the Detriot Pistons do for asking for a game 7 against Boston. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2906 "2008-06-04T20:58:31Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] I’m pretty sure it was reported that only over the weekend did she decide to speak in New York instead of one of the states where the voting was happening or another significant site. [/QUOTE] Fair enough but the New York metropolitan area has many, many better, non-basement choices, even with short notice – a affluent area’s (large) high school auditorium, for instance. I don’t really care, I just thought it was implausible, given what’s being speculated about. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2907 "2008-06-04T21:20:29Z")
[QUOTE=LonghornDave] I think she has just as good of an argument to stay in the race as the Detriot Pistons do for asking for a game 7 against Boston. [/QUOTE] Except there ARE no more games! The series is over…there are no more games to play. No more voting to be done…the voting’s over. ---
**Author:** ![LonghornDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LonghornDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonghornDave)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2908 "2008-06-04T21:35:16Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Except there ARE no more games! The series is over…there are no more games to play. No more voting to be done…the voting’s over. [/QUOTE] You appear to have found a flaw in both the Piston’s argument as well as Hillary’s. Congratulations. I guess I was distracted by the convincing argument that we should just count total points (excluding free throws and layups) instead of games won. I guess that settles it, Celtics / Lakers it is. Logic and common sense prevail once more. ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2909 "2008-06-04T21:43:58Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Except there ARE no more games! The series is over…there are no more games to play. No more voting to be done…the voting’s over. [/QUOTE] Sure there is, I can go to DENVER and where the supers can still change their mind…there’s STILL A CHANCE! Why can’t you see that? I’m the best, strongest candidate. I have 18 million votes and only lost by 100 delegates…who can still change their mind at the convention, you know. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2910 "2008-06-04T21:47:24Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] I’m pretty sure it was reported that only over the weekend did she decide to speak in New York instead of one of the states where the voting was happening or another significant site. [/QUOTE] That was my take on it as well. I don’t see a conspiracy to keep the blackberries blank, it’s just that there was a last minute change of plans. And I prefer my Koolaid Obama flavored. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2911 "2008-06-04T21:50:48Z")
My take on Clinton wanting the VP slot: so she can say to herself after the election, “He never would have won without me!” :rolleyes: I do think I’ll follow **Lib** ’s suggestion several pages back and give her a hand. Of course, my thumb will be touching my nose as I do so. . . . _And at long last, it is time to say:_ You’re done, baby. Now, please leave. ---
**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2912 "2008-06-04T21:53:22Z")
Jesus, I’m so sick of Pat Buchanan on MSNBC. They allow him to comment on Democratic party politics and it’s nothing but FUD and concern trolling. Nice… tweety just got him! He told him he was reading McCain talking points and after a denial by Buchanan he said, “It’s instinctive, Pat” ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2913 "2008-06-04T22:01:39Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Except there ARE no more games! The series is over…there are no more games to play. No more voting to be done…the voting’s over. [/QUOTE] The voting to select the nominee won’t actually happen until Denver. So the supers could still change their minds. Just like the refs could change their minds and decide the Pistons have a better chance to beat the Lakers than the Celtics do, and award them 50 extra retroactive free throws. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2914 "2008-06-04T22:06:43Z")
[QUOTE=Colibri] The voting to select the nominee won’t actually happen until Denver. So the supers could still change their minds. [/QUOTE] Taking this approach to the nomination process is outside-the-box, ballsy and a strategic approach never before seen in the annals of political and election history. And that’s _not_ a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2915 "2008-06-04T22:08:45Z")
Getting HRC to just go away is like trying to flip a booger off of your finger. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2916 "2008-06-04T22:14:15Z")
Fun? ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2917 "2008-06-04T22:33:02Z")
[I admire Hillary’s unflinching determination to blot out the horror of her personal and professional life.](http://www.someecards.com/upload/somewhat_topical/i_admire_hillarys_unflinching_determination_to_blot_out.html) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2918 "2008-06-04T23:17:42Z")
She’s dropping out Friday! Better late than never. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2919 "2008-06-04T23:25:39Z")
Says who? If it ain’t Jesus Christ — or at the very least the angel Gabriel — then I’ll believe it when I see it. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/2920 "2008-06-04T23:31:00Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Says who? If it ain’t Jesus Christ — or at the very least the angel Gabriel — then I’ll believe it when I see it. [/QUOTE] [http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080604/pl\_nm/usa\_politics\_clinton\_abc\_dc](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080604/pl_nm/usa_politics_clinton_abc_dc) I’m with you. I’ll believe it when I see it too. There were reports that her speech last night was going to be a concession speech before it happened. We all know how that went. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=145) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=147)