# Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 18, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726 "2008-03-18T00:01:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/581 "2008-04-03T00:01:08Z")

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Not to interrupt the conversation between **Shayna** and **cosmosdan** , and in keeping with the 3AM theme above, the Bosnia thread has a hilarious clip from Bill Maher about a new video game inspired by Clinton’s Bosnia adventure called [Hillary Clinton’s 3AM Call of Duty: Mission, Bosnia](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNu0XRUUoic).

Too damn funny!

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/582 "2008-04-03T00:06:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]

Wow, for a moment I thought it really was gonna be a parody ad. But it looks real. Holy Christ.

. . .

Is that really supposed to be a selling point for Hillary, that she’d make a snap decision about what to do about the mortgage crisis in the middle of the night?

What drugs are her PR staff on?  
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John McCain has responded with a new commercial of his own:

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> [http://thepage.time.com/script-for-mccains-response-tv-ad-to-clintons-3-am-spot/](http://thepage.time.com/script-for-mccains-response-tv-ad-to-clintons-3-am-spot/)
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> **Script for McCain’s Response TV Ad to Clinton’s 3 AM Spot**
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> Announcer: It’s 3 am and your children are safe and asleep. But there’s a phone ringing in the White House and this time the crisis is economic. Home foreclosures mounting, markets teetering.
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> Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama just said they’d solve the problem by raising your taxes. More money out of your pocket.
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> John McCain has a better plan. Grow jobs, grow our economy… not grow Washington.
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> It’s 3 am, time for a president who is ready.

Does anybody know of a way I can save this youtube video before I have to close my browser window and lose it forever?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/583 "2008-04-03T00:10:27Z")

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Perhaps you could bookmark it?

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/584 "2008-04-03T00:14:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Starving Artist]

Can’t you just bookmark it?  
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That won’t work because it’s not an active link anymore. The video has been removed from the source website. But since I still have it open on a browser from this morning, I’m still able to replay it. I’d like to be able to SAVE it so I can upload it again myself. I just don’t know how I would go about doing that.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/585 "2008-04-03T00:16:27Z")

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What video are you looking for? It’s not on Youtube?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/586 "2008-04-03T00:20:01Z")

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Sorry, I got confused. When I clicked on the McCain link all I got was the script. I didn’t realize that there was apparently a video there before so I thought you were trying to save something else.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/587 "2008-04-03T00:22:05Z")

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The video was on youtube but got taken down. It’s in her cache so she can still watch it, but if she closes the window she won’t be able to get it back.

There’s a firefox plugin to save youtube videos - I’m not sure what the name is, though. Plus you might have to restart firefox to install it.

The video is stored somewhere temporarily on your system most likely… I don’t know where, but the information may be googlable.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/588 "2008-04-03T00:22:40Z")

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**eddyteddyfreddy** , I’ve spent almost my entire adult life in Massachusetts, following state politics very closely, and I can honestly say I’ve never even fuckin’ \*heard \* of Tom Trimarco. But, if his opinion matters to you, you’re welcome to it. I can assure you it doesn’t matter to almost anyone else.

What _is_ this thing you call a “prominent Massachusetts Republican”? I remember reading about them in history books, but I’d thought Romney had killed them all off.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/589 "2008-04-03T00:27:33Z")

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[QUOTE=SenorBeef]

There’s a firefox plugin to save youtube videos - I’m not sure what the name is, though. Plus you might have to restart firefox to install it.  
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Yep, you have to restart Firefox to finish the install, which means I’d lose it. ☹

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> The video is stored somewhere temporarily on your system most likely… I don’t know where, but the information may be googlable.

I figure that’s why I can keep playing it, even though it’s no longer available at the source, but I have no idea how to capture and save it. Bah. I _really_ don’t want them to get away with destroying evidence of the Florida Democrats’ complicity in moving their primary date up. :mad:

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/590 "2008-04-03T00:33:07Z")

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The file will probably be in your cache file somewhere, but the browsers don’t use naming schemes that are meant to make sense to a user. You can look through the cache directory and sort by the modified or created time, then look at the files from around the time you looked at that page. Take anything that looks like it’s the appropriate size for a flash video file of that length, save it as file1.flv, file2.flv, etc. and then try to play them in a flash player.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/591 "2008-04-03T00:34:09Z")

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[QUOTE=SenorBeef]  
The video was on youtube but got taken down. It’s in her cache so she can still watch it, but if she closes the window she won’t be able to get it back

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Thanks. I did tumble to that…eventually! :smack:

And **Shayna** …this may not be a workaround you’d be interested in, but can you record it on some other device (cell phone, video camera, etc.) as it plays on your computer?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/592 "2008-04-03T00:53:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Starving Artist]  
…and guess who’s manning the phones, fully dressed, with hair perfectly coiffed and gold necklace in place, ready to take on that sudden mortgage crisis that has somehow erupted in the middle of the night.

There aren’t enough rolleyes in the world!

[Link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XpaK-cGO9U)  
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Indeed there aren’t!

On the ridiculous-o-meter, it’s right up there with Dukakis in the tank.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/593 "2008-04-03T01:01:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Starving Artist]

And **Shayna** …this may not be a workaround you’d be interested in, but can you record it on some other device (cell phone, video camera, etc.) as it plays on your computer?  
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That’s a great idea. I just don’t have a video camera on my cell phone (that I know of) and the camera we have that takes videos is at home. Perhaps I’ll just leave my computer up all night and come back tomorrow with the video camera!

They can’t deny it ever existed, though, because I took a screen shot of the page where it once resided, which also includes their description of the video, indicating his motion was made in sarcasm and calling it a joke that even Dean didn’t buy.

[Lookie here.](http://www.flickr.com/photos/23298617@N05/2384243286/)

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**Author:** ![Tabithina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@Tabithina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabithina)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/594 "2008-04-03T01:29:45Z")

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Shayna, is this it? I went googling his name…

[http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/files/geller\_amendment\_fullh.264%20300Kbps.mov](http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/files/geller_amendment_fullh.264%20300Kbps.mov)

If it is, somebody save it, before it disappears again. I’m not sure how to do that. 🙂

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/595 "2008-04-03T01:37:07Z")

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[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]  
**eddyteddyfreddy** , I’ve spent almost my entire adult life in Massachusetts, following state politics very closely, and I can honestly say I’ve never even fuckin’ \*heard \* of Tom Trimarco.  
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[Oh, just some nobody who never done nuthin’.](http://www.oneillandassoc.com/about/trimarco-thomas.php) Perhaps you’ve heard of an obscure state agency known as the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority? An appointed state office known as Secretary of Administration and Finance?

[Oddly enough, the Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly seems to be aware of him.](http://www.oneillandassoc.com/about/documents/TTMassLawyersWeeklyTomandTomArticle.pdf) But maybe that’s just because his wife is the chief justice of the Superior Court.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/596 "2008-04-03T02:03:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Tabithina]

Shayna, is this it? I went googling his name…

[http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/files/geller\_amendment\_fullh.264%20300Kbps.mov](http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/files/geller_amendment_fullh.264%20300Kbps.mov)

If it is, somebody save it, before it disappears again. I’m not sure how to do that. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]  
I’m only getting the audio on that, no video, but yes, that’s the one! I’ll try to play it when I get home, to see if it’s just my machine at work that doesn’t want to display the video.

I’ve downloaded a couple of freeware/shareware programs that do video and audio capture from your screen, but so far neither one wants to record the audio. I’ve got the video, but no sound. I’m going home and tackling this later. Thanks for your help!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/597 "2008-04-03T02:04:28Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
[Oh, just some nobody who never done nuthin’.](http://www.oneillandassoc.com/about/trimarco-thomas.php) Perhaps you’ve heard of an obscure state agency known as the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority? An appointed state office known as Secretary of Administration and Finance?

[Oddly enough, the Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly seems to be aware of him.](http://www.oneillandassoc.com/about/documents/TTMassLawyersWeeklyTomandTomArticle.pdf) But maybe that’s just because his wife is the chief justice of the Superior Court.  
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Haven’t you been paying attention, **ETF**? States and people who don’t support Clinton are insignificant.

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**Author:** ![Tabithina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@Tabithina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabithina)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/598 "2008-04-03T02:11:07Z")

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Shayna, I’m getting both audio and video. I wish I could help more, but my computer is not up to the task at this time.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/599 "2008-04-03T02:12:47Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
[Oh, just some nobody who never done nuthin’.](http://www.oneillandassoc.com/about/trimarco-thomas.php) Perhaps you’ve heard of an obscure state agency known as the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority? An appointed state office known as Secretary of Administration and Finance?  
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Appointed hacks are thick as mosquitos around here. You know that. The ones who actually carry any \*weight \* are far fewer. You know that too. Trimarco ain’t one. You know that _too_.

But I understand how that reality stuff just gets in the way of the fun you’re having here. Carry on.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/600 "2008-04-03T02:13:30Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Haven’t you been paying attention, **ETF**? States and people who don’t support Clinton are insignificant.  
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:smack:

How could I forget? I’m so ashamed.

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