# Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 18, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726 "2008-03-18T00:01:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/881 "2008-04-21T00:42:49Z")
He’s not the only one, then. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/882 "2008-04-21T00:50:23Z")
What Daniel said, **Elvis**. I’m not saying _you_ think the Will of the People has changed twice in two days. But one of the recurring debates surrounding this campaign, as you know, is whether the supers have any business overriding the will of the primary voters. And I don’t know your thoughts, I’m afraid. So I have no idea whether you’re strictly joking, or whether you’re trying to make a point, in the guise of humor, about the futility of trying to read that will. That’s why I asked. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/883 "2008-04-21T03:02:00Z")
From [yahoo news](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_el_pr/democrats): > [@](#): > > Obama also paid the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting a backhanded compliment. “Either Democrat would be better than John McCain,” he told an audience in Reading. “And all three of us would be better than George Bush.” > > That drew a feisty rebuke from Clinton, who said a McCain presidency would continue the policies of the Bush administration. > > “We need a nominee who will take on John McCain, not cheer on John McCain,” she told supporters at a Johnstown rally. :smack: Oh Hillary, you wouldn’t recognize irony if it cockslapped you in the eye. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/884 "2008-04-21T03:05:14Z")
Oh, god…that’s the kind of article that I usually have to check to see if it’s from the Onion. That’s just sad on her part…doesn’t she know? ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/885 "2008-04-21T12:03:50Z")
[QUOTE=SenorBeef] From [yahoo news](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_el_pr/democrats): :smack: Oh Hillary, you wouldn’t recognize irony if it cockslapped you in the eye. [/QUOTE] F\*ck’in A Man! ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/886 "2008-04-21T13:26:50Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Oh, god…that’s the kind of article that I usually have to check to see if it’s from the Onion. That’s just sad on her part…doesn’t she know? [/QUOTE] She knows. She’s just betting that _you_ don’t. Usually, for American politicians, that’s been a safe bet. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/887 "2008-04-21T15:25:40Z")
Although he’s a little more left leaning on some issues than I am, here’s an interesting Obama endorsement and article from Michael Moore. > [@Michael Moore](#): > > I don’t get to vote for President this primary season. I live in Michigan. The party leaders (both here and in D.C.) couldn’t get their act together, and thus our votes will not be counted. > > So, if you live in Pennsylvania, can you do me a favor? Will you please cast my vote – and yours – on Tuesday for Senator Barack Obama? --more– ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/888 "2008-04-21T19:08:30Z")
[Ohio Superdelegate endorses Barack Obama](http://thepage.time.com/obama-release-on-new-ohio-superdelegate/) > [@](#): > > DNC Member Enid Goubeaux cites Obama’s ability to end “politics as usual > > “I am endorsing Sen. Obama because his message, ‘yes we can’ has inspired so many voters, especially younger voters, to take part in shaping our country’s future. > > “I believe that Sen. Obama will end politics as usual which divides the nation and prevents us from confronting our most serious problems.” ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/889 "2008-04-21T19:22:39Z")
And for those who obsess over the noise of daily tracking, today Gallup has Obama back up in national Dem tracking by 7 and Rasmussen by 5. Doubt that that will warrant articles though. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/890 "2008-04-21T19:39:56Z")
Will Hillary denounce [Ed Rendell](http://youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA)? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/891 "2008-04-21T19:44:43Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] Will Hillary denounce [Ed Rendell](http://youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA)? [/QUOTE] **Gangster Octopus** , I started a GD thread on this mini-bombshell already, but I see you beat me by one minute :). I was going to post it here, but it seemed to deserve a thread all its own. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/892 "2008-04-22T11:03:47Z")
This morning’s news showed snippets of new Clinton and Obama commericals that have just begun to air this week. [Clinton’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6W3rVTLhw) featured Truman’s “if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen” quote. Does this strike anyone else as eye-rolling considering her own statement “I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies”? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/893 "2008-04-22T11:22:42Z")
[QUOTE=elfkin477] This morning’s news showed snippets of new Clinton and Obama commericals that have just begun to air this week. [Clinton’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6W3rVTLhw) featured Truman’s “if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen” quote. Does this strike anyone else as eye-rolling considering her own statement “I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies”? 😉 [/QUOTE] Not to mention, “Why do you always ask _me_ the first question? WAAAAAH! Why don’t you see if Barack needs a pillow? WAAAAAH!” ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/894 "2008-04-22T11:35:16Z")
It’s the biggest line of BS I’ve seen yet, and I hope the voters in the good state of Pennsylvania see it for what it’s worth. Also, looks like another former white house offspring endorses Barack Obama. [Julie Nixon Eisenhower](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/21/a-nixon-for-obama/index.html?ref=politics) has come out in favor of Obama… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/895 "2008-04-22T12:19:14Z")
Julie Nixon Eisenhower! Woo hoo!!! This election must end soon. I am continually in danger of being politically incorrect at my workplace. There are TV monitors on all over the place, and I tend to involuntarily let out a snort of disgust whenever Hillary appears on the screen. Worse, there was a puff story on one of the morning shows airing in the docs’ lounge showing the First Lady and Jenna Bush, with the headline at the bottom of the screen “Laura and Jenna Bush Battle Illiteracy”. For some reason this made me burst out laughing. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/896 "2008-04-22T13:24:21Z")
[QUOTE=Jackmannii] Worse, there was a puff story on one of the morning shows airing in the docs’ lounge showing the First Lady and Jenna Bush, with the headline at the bottom of the screen “Laura and Jenna Bush Battle Illiteracy”. For some reason this made me burst out laughing. [/QUOTE] You laughed because it’s funny 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/897 "2008-04-22T17:10:41Z")
[QUOTE=elfkin477] This morning’s news showed snippets of new Clinton and Obama commericals that have just begun to air this week. [Clinton’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6W3rVTLhw) featured Truman’s “if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen” quote. Does this strike anyone else as eye-rolling considering her own statement “I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies”? 😉 [/QUOTE] It appears when it comes to the Weathermen Underground, [they can dish it but they can’t take it.](http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/04/8015_a_tale_of_clint.html) ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/898 "2008-04-22T19:56:53Z")
[29 North Carolina Legislators Endorse Barack Obama](http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/zachedwards/gGCBlC) > [@](#): > > Today 29 members of the North Carolina state legislature endorsed Senator Obama, citing his ability to inspire and bring people together to move our country forward, and put an end to the divisive politics of Washington that have stalled progress on the great challenges facing our nation. The legislators’ endorsements are the latest addition to Obama’s grassroots movement for change, which has come to encompass a broad spectrum of North Carolinians – from the grassroots level to representatives in United States Congress – who will vote for change on May 6. > > . . . > > Last week, Obama welcomed other notable North Carolina legislators – and Democratic superdelegates – to his campaign, U.S. Congressmen David Price and Mel Watt. He has also been endorsed by U.S. Congressman G.K. Butterfield. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/899 "2008-04-22T21:35:59Z")
It looks like Obama’s got [John Mellencamp](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/22/05019/0771/166/499183) in his, uh, camp, too. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/900 "2008-04-22T21:42:10Z")
[QUOTE=elfkin477] This morning’s news showed snippets of new Clinton and Obama commericals that have just begun to air this week. [Clinton’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6W3rVTLhw) featured Truman’s “if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen” quote. Does this strike anyone else as eye-rolling considering her own statement “I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies”? 😉 [/QUOTE] It gets worse. As Olbermann showed last night, she’s using the text of that commercial, verbatim, in her stump speech. Guess we should give her points for her ability to stay “on message”. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=46)