# Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 18, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726 "2008-03-18T00:01:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1241 "2008-05-07T15:48:52Z")
[QUOTE=Merkwurdigliebe] Apparently the least racist areas to be in are the Mountain West states where Obama cleaned up so heavily. [/QUOTE] …and won a hefty share of the constituency supposedly so favorable to Clinton. But I’m not sure conclusions could be so easily drawn. Maybe the western states are more misogynist … I don’t think that’s true, but we really don’t have a way to statistically prove either conjecture based on nothing more than primaries and caucuses. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1242 "2008-05-07T15:54:37Z")
Breaking News: A massive conference call is underway among key Obama superdelegates courting uncommiteds and soft Hillary superdelegates. It will be interesting to see what happens when the call is over. (For people unfamiliar with this type of conference call, it is a common method of communication for networkers. Keynote speakers take turns talking while people who were invited to dial in listen.) ---
**Author:** ![Burton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Burton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Burton)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1243 "2008-05-07T15:56:33Z")
Isn’t the New Yorker ‘media’? What you say is true but I think it is emerging somewhat as an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1244 "2008-05-07T16:02:40Z")
[QUOTE=Burton] Isn’t the New Yorker ‘media’? What you say is true but I think it is emerging somewhat as an issue. [/QUOTE] You’re right. I meant the television media – especially the cable news networks. The racism among some pockets of working class whites always gets tiptoed around or alluded to only in the most elliptical way (i.e. Obama’s alleged “problem connecting” with lower class/less educated whites). ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1245 "2008-05-07T16:06:26Z")
Quite honestly, isolating particular pockets of “whites” as a class to talk about in a context of racism is a little bit spooky to me. Is there something about them other than their whiteness that you could latch onto? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1246 "2008-05-07T16:09:48Z")
George McGovern has switched his backing from Hilary to Barack saying it’s time to unite the party. I heard some pundits talking today about Hilary as VP. I doubt that. Anyone else think that’s likely or a good idea? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1247 "2008-05-07T16:11:52Z")
Two people beat you to it, **cosmosdan**. 😃 (No, having Hillary/Bill in such a high profile would not be a good idea, in my opinion.) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1248 "2008-05-07T16:12:44Z")
[QUOTE=cosmosdan] I heard some pundits talking today about Hilary as VP. I doubt that. Anyone else think that’s likely or a good idea? [/QUOTE] No and no. It’d hurt his appeal both to his own supporters and to the independents he keeps saying he can attract. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1249 "2008-05-07T16:15:48Z")
[QUOTE=cosmosdan] I heard some pundits talking today about Hilary as VP. I doubt that. Anyone else think that’s likely or a good idea? [/QUOTE] He wouldn’t want to give it to her and she wouldn’t want to take it. It would send the message that a little bit of the same old politics is just fine, which would turn off a lot of his supporters. She would have more power/prestige as a Senator or perhaps as Governor. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1250 "2008-05-07T16:16:59Z")
[QUOTE=cosmosdan] I heard some pundits talking today about Hilary as VP. I doubt that. Anyone else think that’s likely or a good idea? [/QUOTE] That’s the one thing he could do to lose my support unconditionally. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1251 "2008-05-07T16:17:44Z")
VP possibilities for Obama in discussion [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=467093). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1252 "2008-05-07T16:19:34Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Quite honestly, isolating particular pockets of “whites” as a class to talk about in a context of racism is a little bit spooky to me. Is there something about them other than their whiteness that you could latch onto? [/QUOTE] I’m latching onto their racism, not their whiteness. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1253 "2008-05-07T16:25:26Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] He wouldn’t want to give it to her and she wouldn’t want to take it. It would send the message that a little bit of the same old politics is just fine, which would turn off a lot of his supporters. She would have more power/prestige as a Senator or perhaps as Governor. [/QUOTE] She still has four more years to sit in the senate. When’s the next gubernatorial contest in the Empire State? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1254 "2008-05-07T16:26:57Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] She still has four more years to sit in the senate. When’s the next gubernatorial contest in the Empire State? [/QUOTE] Why limit it to New York? She’s from Illinois, she’s from Pennsylvania, she’s from Arkansas… ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1255 "2008-05-07T16:28:14Z")
[QUOTE=42fish] Personally, I’m leaning towards P-Funk’s “Chocolate City” (“They call it the White House, but that’s a temporary condition”) [/QUOTE] Now _there’s_ a Clinton I can get behind. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1256 "2008-05-07T16:41:19Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Breaking News from MSNBC: George McGovern, former Democratic representative and senator from South Dakota, and former Clinton supporter, has publicly called on her to drop out of the race. He has announced he will vote as a delegate for Obama. [/QUOTE] McGovern isn’t a delegate. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1257 "2008-05-07T16:43:28Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] He wouldn’t want to give it to her and she wouldn’t want to take it. It would send the message that a little bit of the same old politics is just fine, which would turn off a lot of his supporters. She would have more power/prestige as a Senator or perhaps as Governor. [/QUOTE] I agree. I’m thinking he’ll want someone who shares his vision of changing how politics operates and has enough practical sense to appeal to a lot of voters. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1258 "2008-05-07T16:47:06Z")
Richardson. Edwards. Or, what the heck, Bill. ---
**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1259 "2008-05-07T16:48:06Z")
Ms. Clinton for Secretary of State? ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1260 "2008-05-07T16:50:01Z")
Hillary is speaking live in West Virginia right now. She just said that Indiana was a come-from-behind victory, having been down by 7 or 8 to pull out a win. I guess I should have knwon she’d find yet another thing to [lie about](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/in/indiana_democratic_primary-639.html). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=64)