# Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 18, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726 "2008-03-18T00:01:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 90
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1781 "2008-05-19T20:07:49Z")
[Update](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/19/dems.wrap) from CNN: \*"The latest Gallup daily tracking poll suggests Democratic voters are beginning to coalesce around Obama. He holds a 16-point lead over Clinton in Gallup’s daily tracking poll released Monday. He has the support of 55 percent of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters, while Clinton’s support is at 39 percent. Previously, Obama’s largest lead over Clinton was 11 percentage points, in daily tracking polls conducted in mid-May and mid-April, according to Gallup."\* ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1782 "2008-05-19T20:26:34Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] Is my hypothetical really that far fetched? I thought supporters of Hillary’s nomination held a quorum in the rules committee. [/QUOTE] Even if they rule completely in her favor, and don’t give him any of Michigan’s uncommitted (read: delegates that would have gone to Obama or Edwards), she’d still be behind by 80 delegates at this point, according to DCW. Using very round numbers, this means he’d need around 200 more delegates, while she’d need around 300. Given the recent trend of superdelegate endorsements, and assuming a 50/50 split of the remaining pledged delegates, I can’t envision a scenario where she gets supers declaring at her at a rate of 2:1. So, yes, I think your hypothetical is really that far fetched. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1783 "2008-05-19T20:28:03Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] I know they rejected it, but I still think it is the one that they will end up with. [/QUOTE] If they don’t accept it, the issue may be decided for them. They could end up with something far different – or nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1784 "2008-05-19T21:10:38Z")
Today’s superdelegate tally (so far): [Obama 5, Clinton 0](http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/19/obama-picks-up-washington-super/). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1785 "2008-05-19T21:17:30Z")
[Karl Rove likes me…](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/19/clinton-cites-karl-rove-as-reason-to-stay-in/) First it was SNL now it’s Karl Rove…? I mean really, has it reached that point now? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1786 "2008-05-19T21:29:22Z")
[QUOTE=holmes] [Karl Rove likes me…](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/19/clinton-cites-karl-rove-as-reason-to-stay-in/) First it was SNL now it’s Karl Rove…? [/QUOTE] Yeah, but Obama’s got [Warren Buffet.](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/19/buffet-supporting-obama/) In another development, the Clinton campaign has announced that three out of four wanted war criminals think she’d make the better President. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1787 "2008-05-19T21:35:26Z")
So, any opinons on Hillary’s [new campaign poster](http://www.hillarystore.com/store/HC0925.html)? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1788 "2008-05-19T21:41:50Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] So, any opinons on Hillary’s [new campaign poster](http://www.hillarystore.com/store/HC0925.html)? [/QUOTE] Jesus! I saw that last night somewhere online but I thought it was a parody! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1789 "2008-05-19T21:45:31Z")
She looks like a Japanese emperor. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1790 "2008-05-19T21:53:53Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] Today’s superdelegate tally (so far): [Obama 5, Clinton 0](http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/19/obama-picks-up-washington-super/). 🙂 [/QUOTE] Welcome back, Shayna. How was your trip? Has your boss finally decided to switch allegiances and back the presumptive nominee Obama? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1791 "2008-05-19T23:17:00Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] Welcome back, Shayna. How was your trip? Has your boss finally decided to switch allegiances and back the presumptive nominee Obama? 🙂 [/QUOTE] Hi **Ono**! Trip was awesome! Denmark is absolutely beautiful this time of year, and it was lovely to visit with our family over there. They’re such wonderful people and we had a really great time. Thanks for asking! The bossman hasn’t yet started fully supporting Obama, but he’s been calling for Hillary to quit the race for weeks (if not months) and won’t do anything further to help her campaign. He’s completely backed out of it. And once Obama is officially the nominee, I know he will support him completely. He’s a staunch Democrat afterall, and I’m confident he’ll do whatever it takes to get a Democrat into the White House, regardless of who it is. ---
**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1792 "2008-05-19T23:43:36Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Jesus! I saw that last night somewhere online but I thought it was a parody! [/QUOTE] It has a true **Soviet** look to it. My word, that’s awful. What are these people thinking? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1793 "2008-05-19T23:45:43Z")
[QUOTE=vison] It has a true **Soviet** look to it. My word, that’s awful. What are these people thinking? [/QUOTE] The truth comes out in the end. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1794 "2008-05-20T00:04:36Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] Welcome back, Shayna. How was your trip? Has your boss finally decided to switch allegiances and back the presumptive nominee Obama? 🙂 [/QUOTE] Hush! Using phrases like “presumptive nominee Obama” will unleash the wrath of Hillary on us all! Don’t forget that the race is far from over. If Hillary starts tracking and whacking Obama superdelegates at a rate of 5 delegates per day this will reverse the trend and discourage further supers thinking of endorsing him which should give her an edge once Florida and Michigan votes are included. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1795 "2008-05-20T00:08:12Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] So, any opinons on Hillary’s [new campaign poster](http://www.hillarystore.com/store/HC0925.html)? [/QUOTE] If you cover up her face, she has televangelist hair. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1796 "2008-05-20T00:13:25Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] She looks like a Japanese emperor. [/QUOTE] Unleash the kamikazes! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1797 "2008-05-20T00:15:26Z")
[QUOTE=vison] It has a true **Soviet** look to it. My word, that’s awful. What are these people thinking? [/QUOTE] I think they were looking for a counter to [this Obama poster](http://creativity-online.com/?action=news:article&newsId=124743), which I’m not particularly keen on, but apparently I’m an outlier. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1798 "2008-05-20T00:18:13Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] Today’s superdelegate tally (so far): [Obama 5, Clinton 0](http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/19/obama-picks-up-washington-super/). [/QUOTE] And combined with the two from Sunday, that brings Obama’s superdelegate magic number down to ~30. (Based on the assumption that he racks up ~80 delegates in the five remaining primaries. DCW has his overall number down to 110.) ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1799 "2008-05-20T00:29:16Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] The truth comes out in the end. 😃 [/QUOTE] She’s letting it be known that, at this stage of her demise, she has an Eight-Year Plan. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1800 "2008-05-20T00:40:27Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] I think they were looking for a counter to [this Obama poster](http://creativity-online.com/?action=news:article&newsId=124743), which I’m not particularly keen on, but apparently I’m an outlier. [/QUOTE] I’m personally “meh” on that one, too. They’re both just a little too Socialist Realism to me… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=89) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=91)