# Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 18, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726 "2008-03-18T00:01:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1961 "2008-05-27T13:33:20Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] They changed the date in the URL since last night. [Try this](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/26/carter-after-june-3-it-will-be-time-for-clinton-to-give-it-up/). [/QUOTE] That’s so unprofessional. You’d think they’d make the URL permanent with the original posting so we wouldn’t have to go through this rigmarole. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1962 "2008-05-27T13:37:21Z")
Obama leads in Wyoming poll 52% - 35%. > **[Lee Newspapers poll: Obama holds big edge over Clinton in Montana](https://missoulian.com/news/local/lee-newspapers-poll-obama-holds-big-edge-over-clinton-in-montana/article_b0ebf450-55b2-5c87-b09c-5f4128c077d1.html)** > > HELENA - Barack Obama has grabbed a big lead over Hillary Clinton in Montana's June 3 Democratic presidential primary, a Lee Newspapers poll shows. Obama leads in South Dakota poll 46% - 34%. [http://www.topnews.in/usa/south-dakota-polls-obama-leads-clinton-2445](http://www.topnews.in/usa/south-dakota-polls-obama-leads-clinton-2445) Hillary may not get the massive popular vote she hoped for in Puerto Rico. There are lots of nationalists, and they are predicting a low turnout. Nationalists want sovereignty and refuse to partake in US politics. (An article posted 16 minutes ago as of this writing…) [http://www.onelocalnews.com/howelltimesandtranscript/stories1/index.php?action=fullnews&id=6356](http://www.onelocalnews.com/howelltimesandtranscript/stories1/index.php?action=fullnews&id=6356) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1963 "2008-05-27T15:53:34Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Obama leads in Wyoming poll 52% - 35%. > **[Lee Newspapers poll: Obama holds big edge over Clinton in Montana](https://missoulian.com/news/local/article_b0ebf450-55b2-5c87-b09c-5f4128c077d1.html)** > > HELENA - Barack Obama has grabbed a big lead over Hillary Clinton in Montana's June 3 Democratic presidential primary, a Lee Newspapers poll shows. Obama leads in South Dakota poll 46% - 34%. [http://www.topnews.in/usa/south-dakota-polls-obama-leads-clinton-2445](http://www.topnews.in/usa/south-dakota-polls-obama-leads-clinton-2445) [/quote] Cool beans! (I think you meant Montana, btw.) > [@](#): > > Hillary may not get the massive popular vote she hoped for in Puerto Rico. There are lots of nationalists, and they are predicting a low turnout. Nationalists want sovereignty and refuse to partake in US politics. (An article posted 16 minutes ago as of this writing…) > [One Local News](http://www.onelocalnews.com/howelltimesandtranscript/stories1/index.php?action=fullnews&id=6356) While I don’t follow PR politics at all, I’d take the predictions of the independence folks with a bag of salt. Their voters may stay away, but who knows about the other parties? According to Wikipedia, [the commonwealth party has consistently had plurality support](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico#Government_and_politics), so while there may be a lot of independence voters, they aren’t a majority, or even a plurality, of PR voters. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1964 "2008-05-27T16:17:46Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] Cool beans! (I think you meant Montana, btw.) [/QUOTE] Yes, that’s right. People who thought I meant Wyoming are taking my comment out of context. I do regret being caught making an error if for some reason I offended Hollywood producers making films in Montana. I’ve long been a fan of director Gerald Ford, and of the pictures he made in Montana’s Monument Valley. It is regrettable that all this hysteria over my possible mistake was manufactured by my opponents, all of whom hate me just because I’m a Southerner. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1965 "2008-05-27T16:21:30Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] I think a wooden stake may be required. [/QUOTE] If I recall, we tried that about thirty pages back. It didn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1966 "2008-05-27T16:29:11Z")
[QUOTE=BJMoose] If I recall, we tried that about thirty pages back. It didn’t work. [/QUOTE] the silver and garlic solution on the tip was meant to be time released. Be patient. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1967 "2008-05-27T16:36:04Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] the silver and garlic solution on the tip was meant to be time released. Be patient. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Dang these high-tech new-fangled gadgets, anyway. Give me a chunk of good-old-fashioned burr oak and five minutes and I’ll get the . . . Mmmmm. Ahem. Of course, Sen. Clinton, I wish you many years of healthy and productive service in the United States Senate. Move along, Mr. Protective Service man. Nothing to see here. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1968 "2008-05-27T16:37:52Z")
> [@BJMoose](#): > > Move along, Mr. Protective Service man. Nothing to see here. It’s actually _Secret_ Service, but don’t tell anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1969 "2008-05-27T17:42:50Z")
David Axelrod is predicting Obama will clinch the nomination in the next week. Yeah, man, I think he will too, but do you have to _talk_ about it? Don’t count your chickens! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1970 "2008-05-27T18:37:46Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] David Axelrod is predicting Obama will clinch the nomination in the next week. Yeah, man, I think he will too, but do you have to _talk_ about it? Don’t count your chickens! [/QUOTE] I suspect he has quite a nice assortment of superdelegates in his pocket. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1971 "2008-05-27T18:49:12Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] I suspect he has quite a nice assortment of superdelegates in his pocket. [/QUOTE] Including Pelosi and the less important but worth mentioning, Gore. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1972 "2008-05-27T18:55:40Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] Including Pelosi and the less important but worth mentioning, Gore. [/QUOTE] Not to hijack…well, okay, to hijack, but Pelosi has been one big disappointment. You will now be returned to your regularly scheduled fork thread. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1973 "2008-05-27T18:58:53Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] I suspect he has quite a nice assortment of superdelegates in his pocket. [/QUOTE] So do [others.](http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/) > [@](#): > > the Obama campaign has, for the first time, really, begun to bank delegates. Sources close to the campaign estimate that as many as three dozen Democratic superdelegates have privately pledged to announce their support for Obama on June 4 or 5. The campaign is determined that Obama not end the first week in June without securing the support of delegates numbering 2026 – or 2210, as the case may be. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1974 "2008-05-27T19:30:01Z")
[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] Not to hijack…well, okay, to hijack, but Pelosi has been one big disappointment. You will now be returned to your regularly scheduled fork thread. [/QUOTE] I know, it sucks, but some people still see her as the Speaker of the House and as someone holding some power - limited as it may be. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1975 "2008-05-27T19:50:17Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] Including Pelosi and the less important but worth mentioning, Gore. [/QUOTE] And Jimmy “Hey! Over here! I’m a superdelegate too! I don’t support anyone in particular but Hillary needs to get out!” Carter. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1976 "2008-05-27T19:58:00Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] And Jimmy “Hey! Over here! I’m a superdelegate too! I don’t support anyone in particular but Hillary needs to get out!” Carter. [/QUOTE] But his kids and family made him support Obama! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1977 "2008-05-27T20:23:45Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] And Jimmy “Hey! Over here! I’m a superdelegate too! I don’t support anyone in particular but Hillary needs to get out!” Carter. [/QUOTE] heheh ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1978 "2008-05-27T21:14:11Z")
Today’s superdelegates: Obama 1, Hillary 0. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1979 "2008-05-27T21:24:15Z")
Glad to see there’s still some movement on the supers but I wish they’d move a little more quickly. It seems like a lot of Dems are broadly hinting that the floodgates are going to open on the 4th, but these arid weeks spent waiting around are really getting tedious. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726/1980 "2008-05-27T21:42:16Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Glad to see there’s still some movement on the supers but I wish they’d move a little more quickly. It seems like a lot of Dems are broadly hinting that the floodgates are going to open on the 4th, but these arid weeks spent waiting around are really getting tedious. [/QUOTE] Tell me about it! 8 more days. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fork-hillary-3-the-final-forking/441726.md?page=100)