And we’ve been through this song cycle before. While you can get general agreement here that none of those six numbers are fully valid, that does NOT imply that all have some validity. That is a case you have to make, and your repetition of your assertion doesn’t qualify.
Scoring note:
We’re now back up to 795 superdelegates, thanks to Don Cazayoux’ win in LA-06 on Saturday. That means there are 4048 total delegates, with 2024.5 needed to win. (There are a number of delegates with 0.5 votes.)
DemConWatch reminds us that there are special elections for House seats coming up on May 13 (MS-01) and June 14 (MD-04). Each Dem win would increase the number of supers by 1, and raise the number needed for victory by 0.5.
One of each: Robert Martinez (TX) for Clinton; Kalyn Free (OK) for Obama. Both are DNC superdelegates.
That brings us up to date, at least for the moment, since Shayna’s last superdelegate post.
Poblano, of the highly interesting fivethirtyeight.com, thinks that it’s a virtual certainty that Obama will win the pledged delegate count after the Oregon primary on the 20th. At that point, it’s all over but the shouting.
Here is yet another reason why I would find it very hard to vote for Hillary:
The attack on intellectualism is on.
Stephanopoulos was pretty tough on her. I was surprised. She came off looking like a double-talking desperate idiot.
Between her performance on ABC and Obama’s on Meet the Press, I rather think those who watch the Sunday talk shows might be more inclined to vote for Obama. I thought he was crisp and sharp and if the audience in NC and IN were at all large, that might be just the boost he needs.
You mean that Obama has cornered the elitist vote? 
“Maintain”??
Didn’t those superdelegates hear the news that via the correct permutation of including votes from FL/MI and leaving out votes from IA/NV/ME/WA then Clinton is really leading the popular vote??
It’s like these superdelegates don’t even follow the news or something… sheesh!
Cute, but I bet a lot of people in those states watched the shows who don’t normally watch the Sunday talking heads.
Jeez, she’s starting to sound like Roman Hruska. While Senator from Nebraska, he urged his colleagues to confirm Harold Carswell as Supreme Court justice, saying:
“So what if he is mediocre? There are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they? We can’t have all Brandeises, Cardozos, and Frankfurters and stuff like that there.”
Guess there won’t be none o’ them elites running things in the next Clinton Administration. Instead of some foreign policy wonk, her hairdresser can be Secretary of State. And why not a homeopath as Surgeon General?
Give ‘em hell, Hillary! Down another shot n’ beer, bowl a couple more gutter balls and go a-hunting. On second thought, can the hunting. You’re already in enough trouble with PETA for having bet on Eight Belles in the Kentucky Derby.
That just pisses me off, they KNOW Hillary can’t catch up in delegates and they are still letting this charade play out when they clearly want to endorse Obama.
I’m not sure the pundits really understand North Carolina. Up until the margin apparently narrowed, it was the ugly step-child of the two primaries. But I think they can continue to ignore it since it has a larger Obama demographic than they seem to think. And I don’t mean African-Americans, although there are plenty of those.
Charlotte is a financial mecca, and one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the country. It is the world headquarters for Bank of America and Wachovia, and is heavily populated with white color technocrats and entrepreneurs. Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill is dominated by intellectuals and researchers because of the university triangle — UNC, Duke, and NC State. Asheville, nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains, is so artsy-fartsy that some people call it the San Francisco of the east.
I’m not sure Hillary’s idiot act will play well among those people.
I’m kinda perplexed by this one, too. It seems to boil down to that the pundits were paying less attention to NC because Obama was well ahead in the polls, and the underlying demographics were good for him anyway, so there was no reason to expect a surprise. Now that it’s close, they’re paying attention.
That’s how I see it too. Of course, they covered PA to a fare-thee-well from early on, despite that Hillary was ahead by a landslide. Hell, they’re still declaring her the winner of Texas as though the caucus delegates don’t even count.
I agree and disagree. It is somewhat annoying that party leaders are acting like Hillary has any chance at all in this thing, when anyone being realistic knows better. On the other hand, at this point, being so close to the end anyway, I’d much rather let all the voters have their say first, then have the supers only place a thumb on the scale to bring this thing to a close, than have them put their whole fist on now, and make it appear as if he might not have won the pledged delegates had the supers not thrown their weight into it.
Oh, and the new Superdelegate tally for today: Obama 3, Clinton 0
Drip, drip, drip. . .
Given that PA was the only game in town for six weeks, and Obama was seriously contesting it, of course they were covering it like a blanket.
The difference here is that we’ve got two states going on at once. It was possible to downplay one in favor of the other. With PA, no such option existed.
It could just as easily be said that they’re calling her the winner of Texas as if caucus delegates were secondary to the popular vote itself.
Kinda like how people say Obama won Missouri (based on the popular vote) when it was a 36-36 tie in delegates.
And how Richardson crowed that Obama won Guam over the week-end.
Popular vote win may not be what counts at the convention, but the spin of the day is who wins the popular count as people turn their attention away that day.
Thus she won Texas and won PA by “double digits” and he “won” Guam.
I know I don’t always express it, RT, but I do appreciate your cleaning up behind me on this kind of stuff. I really do admire how meticulous and informed you are about it.