Nazz is an interesting case. After their first album was a success, they recorded what was supposed to be a double album called “Fungo Bat.” The record company insisted on a single album, so they put out one called “Nazz Nazz.” But friction in the group caused Todd Rundgren to leave. The group took the leftover songs from “Fungo Bat” (all written by Rundgren), erased Rundgren’s vocals and recorded over them. He got songwriter credit (they couldn’t avoid that), but is not listed on the album.
Watch Standing In The Shadows of Motown (although I’m sure you already have).
Yep. It’s currently on “On Demand.” That’s how I learned of them. (Too bad about some of the singers they chose to represent the greats.) But then. . .
Did he mention Ian Stewart? Hell, the Stones have current members who have been erased from history. Darryl Jones? Who? And Bobby Keys and Chuck Leavell don’t get the recognition they deserve, either.
Chad Channing. But he was out of the band before they were famous, same way Stuart Sutcliffe was out of the Beatles before they were famous and Pete Best was gone long before they were superstars. Band lineups change and people who were out early don’t get credit if the group makes it big. That’s different from having a different lead singer for a couple of albums after you make it and then pretending the whole thing never happened.
I am fascinated by all this. My ignorance of pop music groups is all-encompassing. When I read the thread title my thought was that, after the 1930s, Josef Stalin never played any of the songs that they recorded with Trotsky.
There’s a lot of this in metal - some overt and some just “understood and not discussed much”
Iron Maiden’s period with Paul D’Anno - gets very little attention
Judas Priest and their work with Ripper Owens on vocals now that Halford is back with them
Motley Crue when Jon Costabi was singing
Van Halen III with Gary Cherone on vocals
Deep Purple had their share of singers some of who get overlooked a lot
And in some cases people just overlook the influence, such as with Chuck Berry’s pianist, Johnnie Johnson, who was instrumental in all of Chuck’s hits, or Jimmy “Chank” Nolanwho helped James Brown create funk…
Few people remember that Annie Halsam was not the original vocalist for Renaissance; in fact the group most people know contains none of the original members of the group. Even fewer remember that the group was originally formed by two former members of the Yardbird – Keith Relf (the Yardbird’s singer) and Jim McCarty and moved from blues to baroque classical roots.
Similarly, Blood Sweat and Tears never acknowledge their earlier, Al Kooper-led, incarnation.
The two guitarists who replaced Mick Jones when he was fired from The Clash – Nick Sheppard and Vince White – are rarely mentioned. And the album that the band released post-Jones – Cut the Crap – is also only rarely mentioned.
Also, the drummer who played in the last iteration of the band before Jones was booted – Pete Howard – is also rarely acknowledged.
In terms of musicians whose bands actually try to bury them, I can’t believe no one has mentioned Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake, bassist and drummer respectively for the Ozzy Osbourne band during “Diary of a Madman” and “Blizzard of Ozz.” Apparently they are demanding a bigger cut of the money, so Sharon Osbourne had Ozzy’s then current bassist and drummer replay their parts and put out “special editions” of the albums.
The guy from the Goo Goo Dolls was on their first hit album, which included the song “Name.” He was gone before it was released, but he was a part of it.
Several years ago I saw the reverse- a band member seemingly trying to erase his band from history. For whatever reason, my internet wanderings took me to the website of Rik Emmett, guitarist and lead singer for Triumph, a band I’d liked in high school. I don’t know if it was bad blood or legal issues or what, but his bio noted only that he’d been in “a band” during the pinnacle of Triumph’s career. No mention of Triumph at all. Pretty amusing, I thought, since the only reason Rik Emmett was known enough to draw anyone to his website was because of Triumph’s success.
Upon just now going back to his site for the first time since, I see that whatever the problem was has been resolved, and Triumph is duly noted. I also see that he’s been making smooth jazz records. Yeesh.
I’ve always heard that Daisley wrote most of the lyrics to the songs that were credited to Ozzy, and that’s not hard to believe. So, the real dispute could well be about royalties.
Geezer Butler used to scoff at the idea that Ozzy ever wrote song lyrics. “He can’t even READ, so how could he WRITE a song,” Butler used to snicker.