# Former President George W

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**Created:** [September 26, 2016, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903 "2016-09-26T01:42:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/41 "2016-09-28T03:23:01Z")

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Jackson

Senator and Presidential candidate Barry M.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/42 "2016-09-28T03:32:51Z")

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Goldwater

\*\*Former Minister to a European country \*\* _and_ Cabinet Secretary Alphonso

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/43 "2016-09-28T03:47:06Z")

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Taft

> **[Alphonso Taft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonso_Taft)**
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> Alphonso Taft (November 5, 1810 – May 21, 1891) was an American jurist, diplomat, politician, Attorney General and Secretary of War under President Ulysses S. Grant. He was also the founder of the Taft political dynasty, and father of President and Chief Justice William Howard Taft.
> As Secretary of War, Taft's popular appointment by Grant did much to restore the integrity of the War Department. Taft reformed the War Department by allowing commanders at Indian forts to choose who could start and ...

Former President and Chief Justice of the United States William Howard

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/44 "2016-09-28T10:33:27Z")

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Taft

Former First Lady Thelma Ryan

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/45 "2016-09-28T12:53:54Z")

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Nixon

Former President Leslie L.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/46 "2016-09-28T13:01:19Z")

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Leslie Lynch King, aka Gerald Ford.

Former president Hiram

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/47 "2016-09-28T14:01:30Z")

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Ulysses S. Grant, born Hiram Ulysses Grant

First Lady descendent and actor Tom

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/48 "2016-09-28T17:44:32Z")

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Isn’t Tom Hanks descended from Lincoln’s mom - not Mary Todd Lincoln.

If it is Hanks then …  
Former Cabinet Secretary Claude A.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/49 "2016-09-28T19:12:22Z")

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And besides, Tom Hanks isn’t a former U.S. political figure. Descendants aren’t relevant to this thread … especially descendants of the parent of a political figure.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/50 "2016-09-28T20:42:42Z")

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Yes, Hanks is descended from Lincoln’s mother, not his wife: [Nancy Lincoln - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Lincoln)

Former Cabinet Secretary Claude A.

Wickard

Chief Justice Harlan F.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/51 "2016-09-28T20:55:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Yes, Hanks is descended from Lincoln’s mother, not his wife: [Nancy Lincoln - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Lincoln)
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> Former Cabinet Secretary Claude A.
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> Wickard

Incorrect! He is Claude **R.** Wickard

Still in play: Former Cabinet Secretary Claude A.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/52 "2016-09-28T23:39:43Z")

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Swanson

Supreme court Justice Roger B.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/53 "2016-09-28T23:54:01Z")

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Taney

[was Tom Hanks incorrect or not?]

In play: Former Senator and actor Fred D.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/54 "2016-09-29T00:47:51Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> [was Tom Hanks incorrect or not?]

Incorrect. This thread is not about descendants of the mothers of political figures. Or anyone else’s descendants. I’ve allowed First Ladies\*, but that doesn’t extend to Presidential progeny.

And let’s keep it Federal. No governors, etc.

\*Although First Lady isn’t an elected office, she is nevertheless a “political figure.” Michelle Obama has a lot more political relevance than Malia or Sasha.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/55 "2016-09-29T03:25:57Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> This thread is not about descendants of the mothers of political figures. Or anyone else’s descendants. I’ve allowed First Ladies\*, but that doesn’t extend to Presidential progeny.
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> And let’s keep it Federal. No governors, etc.

This is becoming a bit restrictive, isn’t it?

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/56 "2016-09-29T03:26:18Z")

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Former Senator and actor Fred D.

Thompson

Chief Justice Harlan F.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/57 "2016-09-29T15:59:32Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Incorrect. This thread is not about descendants of the mothers of political figures.

So the question was inappropriate & incorrect but the answer was right?

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/58 "2016-09-29T16:03:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Former Senator and actor Fred D.
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> Thompson
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> Chief Justice Harlan F.

Post #35

Former Sec’y of War Benjamin

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/59 "2016-09-29T16:49:32Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> So the question was inappropriate & incorrect but the answer was right?

The answer was a correct response to the clue itself, but the clue was not within the parameters of this thread. (channeling John Charles Daly)

Ok, in the spirit of non-restrictiveness, let’s open it up to statewide/local political offices (governors, state senators, mayors, etc.). But no relatives, acquaintances, or people merely sharing the same planet. Sorry about moving the goal post; I’m just trying to define the rules while keeping it fun.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-president-george-w/766903/60 "2016-09-29T20:25:06Z")

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I don’t think we need to keep appending “Former” to every title.

Secretary of War Benjamin

Lincoln

Secretary of State Dean

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