# Former staffer accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 27, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393 "2020-03-27T03:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/741 "2020-05-03T18:56:30Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > The Kremlin, and the rest of our adversaries, are rubbing their hands in delight that one of two doddering old fools will likely become President. Neither is physically up to the job; one is showing signs of decline while the other is such a trainwreck of insecurity and narcissism. These are dark days for our country. Doom and gloom much? Biden will assemble a foreign policy team with decades of experience and it won’t be based on loyalty. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/742 "2020-05-03T19:16:24Z")
Correct. It’s ridiculous to act like Biden is running for king or something, like he is going to be completely in charge of the entire country if he wins. No, we’re not voting for Biden alone, we’re voting for his cabinet, for the fact that he’s going to put people in positions of power in the government who are actually qualified to be there. Biden could be a _convicted rapist_ and I would still rather have him win this election just because I know that he’s not going to be putting people like Jared Kushner in charge of mitigating a disease that has killed more people than the Vietnam War. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/743 "2020-05-03T19:25:25Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Doom and gloom much? Biden will assemble a foreign policy team with decades of experience and it won’t be based on loyalty. It wont be his cabinet or foreign policy team that will be making the final decisions nor meeting with foreign leaders. Take off the partisan spectacles and try to understand why these candidates are not fit to run a first world nation. And criticism of one is not acceptance of the other. I do agree with Lamoral that we will get better bureaucrats to run the day to day functions of government. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/744 "2020-05-03T19:30:49Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > The Kremlin, and the rest of our adversaries, are rubbing their hands in delight that one of two doddering old fools will likely become President. Neither is physically up to the job; one is showing signs of decline while the other is such a trainwreck of insecurity and narcissism. These are dark days for our country. Just the opposite. Old or no, the Kremlin are scared shitless of Biden. And the gap between Biden and trump is so wide that this comparision is extremely wrong. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/745 "2020-05-03T19:34:51Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Just the opposite. Old or no, the Kremlin are scared shitless of Biden. > > And the gap between Biden and trump is so wide that this comparision is extremely wrong. If possible could you please give my as objective an answer as possible as to why anyone would be scared shitless of Biden? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/746 "2020-05-03T19:51:20Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Just the opposite. Old or no, the Kremlin are scared shitless of Biden. > > And the gap between Biden and trump is so wide that this comparision is extremely wrong. Not to only pick on Biden, but he was VP when the Russians occupied and annexed the Crimea. Why in the hell would you think the Russians would be concerned about him? And he wasnt even blackmail-able. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/747 "2020-05-03T19:57:20Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > This story has been looked into by ABC. > > Joe Biden was not even at the event. An aide was sent on his behalf because he was recovering from a surgery. He spoke to the audience via a pre-recorded video message. > > Reporter series of tweets below: > > [Sasha Pezenik debunks Eva Murry allegations against Joe Biden - Album on Imgur](https://imgur.com/a/EK69Iw5) If this was an accusation against a Republican, then the reply would be that she simply got the year wrong; it must have been 2007 or 2009. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/748 "2020-05-03T20:07:04Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > If this was an accusation against a Republican, then the reply would be that she simply got the year wrong; it must have been 2007 or 2009. Be hard for Biden to ask her age and then tell her she has big boobs for a 14 year old when she’s 13 or 15. So now Murry and her aunt are misremembering the event, the year AND what Biden said? Also, how many campaign events would Murry be going with her aunt to in 2009, months after her Senate loss? Because O’Donnell makes a point of how Murry stopped wanting to go to her campaign events after this dinner. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/749 "2020-05-03T20:36:06Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Be hard for Biden to ask her age and then tell her she has big boobs for a 14 year old when she’s 13 or 15. > > So now Murry and her aunt are misremembering the event, the year AND what Biden said? > > Also, how many campaign events would Murry be going with her aunt to in 2009, months after her Senate loss? Because O’Donnell makes a point of how Murry stopped wanting to go to her campaign events after this dinner. I agree with you. However in my time doing criminal defense work, this would not cause the state to rethink its case. Every inconsistency by a “survivor” can be explained away: perhaps it was a different dinner that Biden was at, perhaps it was the year prior and he said 13 and her memory is poor on the exact number. Maybe Murry stopped going to campaign events after seeing Biden on the video because it brought up painful memories of what he said to her the year prior, or a few months prior at another dinner. The state would have experts who would testify that this is all very, very normal in young women who experience such trauma. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/750 "2020-05-03T20:41:40Z")
O’Donnell now said it must have been 2007 but, uh, that doesn’t work either. From Fox News: > [@](#): > > Asked on Sunday about the organizer’s statement that Biden never attended that year, O’Donnell stood by the accusation, while acknowledging to Fox News that it could have been a different year. > > “Yes, it could have been another year. So what? She was a teenager when I ran for office. It doesn’t make it okay,” she wrote to Fox News. “It happened when I was running for office against him. If it was 2007, that makes it even worse.” > > Biden’s schedule from the day of the dinner in 2007, though, placed him in Iowa that evening. So it had to be when O’Donnell was running against Biden. And it wasn’t 2008 and it wasn’t 2007 so… uhh… kind of out of dates there, aren’t we? ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/751 "2020-05-03T20:51:09Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > O’Donnell now said it must have been 2007 but, uh, that doesn’t work either. From Fox News: > So it had to be when O’Donnell was running against Biden. And it wasn’t 2008 and it wasn’t 2007 so… uhh… kind of out of dates there, aren’t we? The reply would be that it must have been a different dinner. She thought it was this special Delaware dinner, but she was confused. It was some other function that Biden attended. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/752 "2020-05-03T21:06:52Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > The reply would be that it must have been a different dinner. She thought it was this special Delaware dinner, but she was confused. It was some other function that Biden attended. Sure, keep throwing out dates and eventually you might find one that works! Uhh… June 17 2007? April 12 2008? December 33rd 2021?? This isn’t even Murry we’re talking about, this is O’Donnell who doesn’t have the excuse of being the supposed victim or young age. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/753 "2020-05-03T21:49:11Z")
Reade told [Alexandra Jaffe](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/biden-complaint-did-not-say-sexual-harassment-says-reade) of the Associated Press that she never filed a report, just an “intake form”. > [@](#): > > When I spoke with her, I tried to get sort of her to clarify whether she filed a full report and what the report said. And she told me that she filed only an intake form. So she basically just filled out a form with some basic information about herself in her office. And within that intake form, she did not use the words sexual harassment or assault. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/754 "2020-05-03T21:55:04Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Sure, keep throwing out dates and eventually you might find one that works! Uhh… June 17 2007? April 12 2008? December 33rd 2021?? > > This isn’t even Murry we’re talking about, this is O’Donnell who doesn’t have the excuse of being the supposed victim or young age. What further throws a spanner in the work is O’Donnell never held elected office so how many political dinners could she possibly have attended where she and Joe Biden were together as invited guests. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/755 "2020-05-03T22:42:00Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > If possible could you please give my as objective an answer as possible as to why anyone would be scared shitless of Biden? Because the kremlin is doing everything in their power to make sure he isnt elected. QED. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/756 "2020-05-03T22:49:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Because the kremlin is doing everything in their power to make sure he isnt elected. QED. Cite? If true Myself and others would love to know why. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/757 "2020-05-03T23:08:34Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Cite? If true Myself and others would love to know why. You dont know this? :dubious: You need a cite?:dubious: - Although the accounts posed as Americans from all sides of the political spectrum, many were united in their opposition to the candidacy of former Vice President Joe Biden, according to Graphika, a social media investigations company that Facebook asked to analyze the accounts.\* > **[Russian web trolls boo Biden, often boost Gabbard, report finds](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russian-web-trolls-boo-biden-often-boost-gabbard-report-finds-n1085216)** > > For Russia, Biden is to 2020 what Hillary Clinton was to 2016, researchers from the Foreign Policy Research Institute say in a new report. _Russian web trolls boo Biden, often boost Gabbard, report finds For Russia, Biden is to 2020 what Hillary Clinton was to 2016, researchers from the Foreign Policy Research Institute say in a new report._ > **[Russian bots targeting Joe Biden on Instagram](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/russian-instagram-bots-joe-biden/)** > > While the most immediate battleground of the 2016 U.S. presidential election may have been on Facebook, the 2020 election may have moved to Instagram.  _And it’s starting with around 50 Russian bot accounts targeting presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden._ > **[That Uplifting Tweet You Just Shared? A Russian Troll Sent It](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russia-troll-2020-election-interference-twitter-916482/)** > > Here's what Russia's 2020 disinformation operations look like, according to two experts on social media and propaganda. _Recently, Vice President Biden has been the most frequent target of this strategy, as seen in dozens of tweets such as, “Joe Biden is damaging Obama’s legacy with his racism and stupidity!” and “Joe Biden doesn’t deserve our votes!”_ Honestly, I thought this was common knowledge. The Reade story is promoted by the Kremlin, IMHO Reade was told by her Kremlin handlers to change her story on Biden from unwanted hugging to forcible rape- and of course Faux news is running it 24/7. Faux now being more or less a tool for Putin, even if not deliberately. Now, sure, unwanted hugging? Plausible. Forcible, violent rape? No. It is surprising that anyone not a total MAGA hat wearer can believe such a obvious politically motivated farrago of lies. And it has nothing to do with Kavanaugh- altho i said his accusers should not be believed either, as the “memories” were so old as to be worthless. Reades supposed “memories” are also so old as to be unreliable, but IMHO she is simply flat out lying, unlike Kavanaugh’s accusers. If you didnt know that the Russians are trying to hurt Bidens campaign- now you know. This is 100% pure misinformation, and that should be very obvious. This has nothing to do with “believing victims” it’s kremlin lies- 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/758 "2020-05-03T23:09:18Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Sure, keep throwing out dates and eventually you might find one that works! Uhh… June 17 2007? April 12 2008? December 33rd 2021?? > > This isn’t even Murry we’re talking about, this is O’Donnell who doesn’t have the excuse of being the supposed victim or young age. That’s right. The attempt to smear Biden is unlikely to be saved by O’Donnell claiming that SHE was far too traumatized to have any idea when this happened. But if that’s all they’ve got, then that’s all they’ve got. > [@Boycott](#): > > What further throws a spanner in the work is O’Donnell never held elected office so how many political dinners could she possibly have attended where she and Joe Biden were together as invited guests. Excellent point. Again, if the best the anti-Biden forces could come up with was Reade, and this O’Donnell story is next-best, then the anti-Biden forces are faced with quite a challenge. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/759 "2020-05-03T23:16:54Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > You dont know this? :dubious: You need a cite?:dubious: > > - > > Although the accounts posed as Americans from all sides of the political spectrum, many were united in their opposition to the candidacy of former Vice President Joe Biden, according to Graphika, a social media investigations company that Facebook asked to analyze the accounts.\* > > [Russian web trolls boo Biden, often boost Gabbard, report finds](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russian-web-trolls-boo-biden-often-boost-gabbard-report-finds-n1085216) > _Russian web trolls boo Biden, often boost Gabbard, report finds > For Russia, Biden is to 2020 what Hillary Clinton was to 2016, researchers from the Foreign Policy Research Institute say in a new report._ > > [https://www.dailydot.com/debug/russian-instagram-bots-joe-biden/](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/russian-instagram-bots-joe-biden/) > _And it’s starting with around 50 Russian bot accounts targeting presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden._ > > [That Uplifting Tweet You Just Shared? A Russian Troll Sent It](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russia-troll-2020-election-interference-twitter-916482/) > _Recently, Vice President Biden has been the most frequent target of this strategy, as seen in dozens of tweets such as, “Joe Biden is damaging Obama’s legacy with his racism and stupidity!” and “Joe Biden doesn’t deserve our votes!”_ > > Honestly, I thought this was common knowledge. The Reade story is promoted by the Kremlin, IMHO Reade was told by her Kremlin handlers to change her story on Biden from unwanted hugging to forcible rape- and of course Faux news is running it 24/7. Faux now being more or less a tool for Putin, even if not deliberately. Now, sure, unwanted hugging? Plausible. Forcible, violent rape? No. > > It is surprising that anyone not a total MAGA hat wearer can believe such a obvious politically motivated farrago of lies. And it has nothing to do with Kavanaugh- altho i said his accusers should not be believed either, as the “memories” were so old as to be worthless. Reades supposed “memories” are also so old as to be unreliable, but IMHO she is simply flat out lying, unlike Kavanaugh’s accusers. > > If you didnt know that the Russians are trying to hurt Bidens campaign- now you know. This is 100% pure misinformation, and that should be very obvious. This has nothing to do with “believing victims” it’s kremlin lies- 100%. This is an amazing overreaction. So some Russian misinformation agencies are trying to smear Biden. But they do not fear him. They are not stupid. Biden is likely an impaired man. Trump is worse. Again, these are dark and depressing days for people who are American. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/760 "2020-05-03T23:29:45Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > This is an amazing overreaction. So some Russian misinformation agencies are trying to smear Biden. But they do not fear him. They are not stupid. Biden is likely an impaired man. Trump is worse. Again, these are dark and depressing days for people who are American. I like that “some”. :rolleyes: Why would Putin spend so much time, effort and ruble trying to make sure Biden isnt elected then? > **[Biden camp: Russia hacking Burisma shows Putin views former vice president as...](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/?p=1412052)** > > 2020 Democratic front-runner Joe Biden is casting himself as the candidate Russian President Vladimir Putin fears the most.Biden's team seized on a New York Times report Monday, which said Russian hackers attempted to hack into Burisma, the Ukrainian... _Biden camp: Russia hacking Burisma shows Putin views former vice president as a ‘threat’…2020 Democratic front-runner Joe Biden is casting himself as the candidate Russian President Vladimir Putin fears the most_. > So, all those cites didnt convince you? These\* are \*dark and depressing days for people who are American. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393.md?page=39)