# Former staffer accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 27, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393 "2020-03-27T03:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/101 "2020-03-28T02:04:26Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > His “national relevance” is short? They put him on the scotus for life, ALSO **stealing that seat from a D potus.**. That is more “national relevance” than should be tolerated by US voters. It’s just about eternal. this is actually not correct ---
**Author:** ![phantom\_lamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@phantom\_lamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phantom_lamb)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/102 "2020-03-28T02:04:53Z")
Joe Biden will not be president. And there’s more to come. Dems chose wrong. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/103 "2020-03-28T02:08:29Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ll also note that this is an entirely different kind of accusation than the others – IIRC, this is the first time anyone has accused Biden of sexual assault, or anything close to sexual assault. All the other accusations (acknowledged and apologized for by Biden, IIRC) were non-sexual touching – i.e. hair, shoulders, hugs, etc., that violated personal space but with no allegations of anything sexual. > … Yeah, and I kinda believed her earlier allegation. Joe is a toucher. That was possible. She no longer has any credibility. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/104 "2020-03-28T03:11:48Z")
> [@phantom\_lamb](#): > > Joe Biden will not be president. And there’s more to come. Dems chose wrong. I hope you’re wrong. But I really think you’re going to be right (unfortunately). ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/105 "2020-03-28T05:46:56Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > And then Biden ran for President in 2016 For the sake of accuracy, Biden didn’t run in 2016. He planned to but then put it off after his son died. ---
**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/106 "2020-03-28T05:49:24Z")
I just don’t get why she waited until he pretty much locked up the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/107 "2020-03-28T06:14:58Z")
> [@sweepkick](#): > > I just don’t get why she waited until he pretty much locked up the nomination. Because the goal of a large number of Bernie supporters is to destroy the Democratic Party. Notice I said Bernie supporters, a great deal of them aren’t Democrats and actively hate the party more than the Republicans. They’re the type who think smashing the windows of a Starbucks is making a stand against globalism. Or whining about the corporate two party Republocrats makes them cool. If Bernie ran a conventional campaign, they’d lash their claws out on him. Bernie is a narcissistic fool with a messianic complex so there’s no risk of that ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/108 "2020-03-28T06:17:47Z")
Something is going to happen to force Joe to drop out, and the Party will end up _ad hoc_ nominating someone else entirely. Maybe some governor whose name ends in a vowel because he happens to inspire a lot of people at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/109 "2020-03-28T12:56:31Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > That’s all well and good but you said that you had no doubt a flood of similar accusations will follow. So what’s with this bullshit “wait and see” stance? Yes, I said that I expect the Republicans to gear up and bring up a flood of similar accusations, and that I hope the Biden campaign is ready for that because it’s pretty obviously what they’re going to do. I have no idea what “bullshit ‘wait and see’ stance” you’re talking about, I think you might be confusing me with another poster since the only comments I made in this thread was the one you responded to and a direct response to you. Biden not being prepared for sexual harassment/assault allegations would be like Bernie not being prepared for the ‘he’s a communist, trips to the USSR!’ accusations that the Republicans could be expected to make. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/110 "2020-03-28T13:06:11Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > Biden not being prepared for sexual harassment/assault allegations would be like Bernie not being prepared for the ‘he’s a communist, trips to the USSR!’ accusations that the Republicans could be expected to make. Well, he wasn’t prepared to cough properly on MSNBC the other day. A “reporter” whose name ends in the same vowel mentioned above had to school him. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/111 "2020-03-28T13:33:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **dalej42** : > > Because the goal of a large number of Bernie supporters is to destroy the Democratic Party. No, that’s the goal of Putin supporters, not Bernie supporters. I don’t know why everyone keeps confusing the two. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/112 "2020-03-28T13:38:58Z")
If Trump wins this time I can certainly see Andrew Cuomo running in 2024. But it’s way to late for him to run now. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/113 "2020-03-28T14:06:09Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > No, that’s the goal of Putin supporters, not Bernie supporters. I don’t know why everyone keeps confusing the two. There’s a lot of conspiracy theory energy among Bernie supporters, a lot of grievance politics. Putin readily taps into that energy, and the rest of us can be forgiven for assuming that Sanders’ voters want to destroy the party. They’re the left’s Tea Party. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/114 "2020-03-28T14:13:16Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > No, that’s the goal of Putin supporters, not Bernie supporters. I don’t know why everyone keeps confusing the two. The former staffer in this story is both. FYI. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/115 "2020-03-28T15:38:15Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well, this is a little different. > > See, a long time lapse is understandable if the accussee is now just thrust upon the national stage, like Kavanaugh or Thomas. But this happened in 1993. Since then, Biden was Veep for 8 years- why not speak out then? And then Biden ran for President in 2016- why not speak out then? And why not speak out when Biden began his 2020 campaign. > > But why oh why would a Sanders supporter chose \*this \*moment, when Biden has pretty much won and sanders has no real chance- to speak out?:rolleyes: why? It’s obvious. The timing does seem a bit too convenient and there is a whiff of a fanatic about her with respect to her comments about Putin. It would be foolish not to be skeptical about her latest claims. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/116 "2020-03-28T15:46:00Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Well, he wasn’t prepared to cough properly on MSNBC the other day. A “reporter” whose name ends in the same vowel mentioned above had to school him. I prefer Biden to Sanders because I think not enough of America is sufficiently progressive. The primaries show that. But far too often, Biden makes me cringe. Not because he coughed the wrong way, but because in interviews he cannot seem to handle answering simple questions. There was a town hall recently with CNN where Biden was responding to called in questions from a voter, and he had serious trouble staying on topic or even remembering the question being asked. He rambled like an absent minded old man. And Anderson Cooper let him. I think he did so out of kindness. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/117 "2020-03-28T15:55:51Z")
newsweek article on this story [Joe-Biden-Sexual-Assault-Accuser-Speak-Out-Without-Fear-Powerful-Men](https://www.newsweek.com/biden-campaign-team-denies-past-sexual-assault-allegation-former-senate-staffer-1494794) ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/118 "2020-03-28T16:02:56Z")
> [@sweepkick](#): > > I just don’t get why she waited until he pretty much locked up the nomination. I don’t necessarily see the problem with waiting to make these claims until a point at which they have significant impact. Assuming it’s true, it seems totally reasonable to come forward at a time when the accusation would have maximum impact. If I were sexually assaulted, I would want to inflict the maximum pain possible to my abuser. And if I felt he was part of a larger organization which was pervasive with that behavior, I would want to harm that organization as well. A big problem for Biden is that his extensive behavior of being super touchy makes any accusation have a greater degree of credibility. There are hundreds or thousands of pictures of him touching different women. If any of those women came forward saying they were uncomfortable or that he did more to them off-camera, it would be basically impossible to disprove their allegations. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/119 "2020-03-28T16:20:55Z")
A little bit about the dynamics of a presidential campaign when there’s an incumbent on the ballot. Everybody has an opinion of trump. Love him or hate him, think he’s the second coming or the anti-Christ, people’s opinion of trump is fixed and baked into the cake. So if you can’t change people’s opinion of trump the only way to move the needle is to change people’s opinion of the _other_ guy. So what are the things that people negatively think about trump? That he’s crooked. So make them think that Biden’s crooked too (Burisma). That he’s mentally unstable. So make them think that Biden has dementia. That he’s a sexual predator. So make them think that Biden is too. People will vote for someone with whom they disagree if they think that he is a better person. But if you can effectively smear the opposing candidate with a given percentage of the electorate, then those issues can be “factored out” on both sides of the equation and the election will be decided based on policy, where the Republicans think they can win. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/120 "2020-03-28T16:22:31Z")
> [@sweepkick](#): > > I just don’t get why she waited until he pretty much locked up the nomination. Because she was mad that Sanders was losing and wants him to win. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393.md?page=7)